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		<title>By: Agnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tc4400 too, and I get approximately 2,5-3 hours at normal usage. However the software checking the battery is somewhat funny, because it says 1hour 55min battery runtime, but I can make notes for almost 3 hours continuously using Xournal with bluetooth off and screen brightness at maximum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tc4400 too, and I get approximately 2,5-3 hours at normal usage. However the software checking the battery is somewhat funny, because it says 1hour 55min battery runtime, but I can make notes for almost 3 hours continuously using Xournal with bluetooth off and screen brightness at maximum.</p>
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		<title>By: sweetaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweetaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I have a tc4400, 2.0ghz core2, 3gb ram, etc. Normal use for me at the lowest screen settings is about 2.5-3 hours with the battery only being a few months old. Even out of the box with wifi off and brightness down I only got 3.5 if i was lucky. If you need to use it all day without plugging in it looks like you&#039;ll need 2 extended batteries to add to the standard.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I have a tc4400, 2.0ghz core2, 3gb ram, etc. Normal use for me at the lowest screen settings is about 2.5-3 hours with the battery only being a few months old. Even out of the box with wifi off and brightness down I only got 3.5 if i was lucky. If you need to use it all day without plugging in it looks like you&#8217;ll need 2 extended batteries to add to the standard.</p>
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		<title>By: sweetaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweetaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I have a tc4400, 2.0ghz core2, 3gb ram, etc. Normal use for me at the lowest screen settings is about 2.5-3 hours with the battery only being a few months old. Even out of the box with wifi off and brightness down I only got 3.5 if i was lucky. If you need to use it all day without plugging in it looks like you&#039;ll need 2 extended batteries to add to the standard.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I have a tc4400, 2.0ghz core2, 3gb ram, etc. Normal use for me at the lowest screen settings is about 2.5-3 hours with the battery only being a few months old. Even out of the box with wifi off and brightness down I only got 3.5 if i was lucky. If you need to use it all day without plugging in it looks like you&#8217;ll need 2 extended batteries to add to the standard.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Even with screen brightness at minimum and WiFi off, I&#039;m getting 3-4 hours max.  And I squint a lot while working.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Even with screen brightness at minimum and WiFi off, I&#8217;m getting 3-4 hours max.  And I squint a lot while working.</p>
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		<title>By: Raul Ybarra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raul Ybarra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 21:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Got to tell you, I have a tc4200 and if I have the wi-fi off, regular business use gets me a good 5 hours of battery time.  When I add the travel battery I&#039;m looking at at... Well, actually, I can&#039;t answer that because I&#039;ve never gone short on power.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With wi-fi on, I&#039;m looking at more like 2 1/2-3  hours.  With the extended battery I&#039;ve gone 4+ regularly(again, I&#039;ve never had to push its limit).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My power settings are not very battery friendly- usually Away On, Light sensor off, and a lot of hard disk usage in signal processing. So my times are quite a bit less than a well optimized system would be.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The travel battery does add a pound of weight and I use it mostly when I&#039;ll be in landscape or laptop modes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Got to tell you, I have a tc4200 and if I have the wi-fi off, regular business use gets me a good 5 hours of battery time.  When I add the travel battery I&#8217;m looking at at&#8230; Well, actually, I can&#8217;t answer that because I&#8217;ve never gone short on power.</p>
<p>With wi-fi on, I&#8217;m looking at more like 2 1/2-3  hours.  With the extended battery I&#8217;ve gone 4+ regularly(again, I&#8217;ve never had to push its limit).</p>
<p>My power settings are not very battery friendly- usually Away On, Light sensor off, and a lot of hard disk usage in signal processing. So my times are quite a bit less than a well optimized system would be.</p>
<p>The travel battery does add a pound of weight and I use it mostly when I&#8217;ll be in landscape or laptop modes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ansin Ozturkmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ansin Ozturkmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 11:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Are you sure it is not on the ultra-capacity battery?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And this is dual-core.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Are you sure it is not on the ultra-capacity battery?</p>
<p>And this is dual-core.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 15:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Not exactly apples to apples but HP also promised approximately the same battery life on the previous TC4200 model. Much to my surprise, when I received my TC4200, the battery life is actually quite close to their projections. I regularly get 4:45 to 5:10 on the bundled battery with the automatic brightness option set and wi-fi TURNED ON! Has actually been one of the greatest surprises of any laptop/tablet I&#039;ve ever used.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Not exactly apples to apples but HP also promised approximately the same battery life on the previous TC4200 model. Much to my surprise, when I received my TC4200, the battery life is actually quite close to their projections. I regularly get 4:45 to 5:10 on the bundled battery with the automatic brightness option set and wi-fi TURNED ON! Has actually been one of the greatest surprises of any laptop/tablet I&#8217;ve ever used.</p>
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		<title>By: Ansin Ozturkmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ansin Ozturkmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 04:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;They are telling right. If you shut down one core, underclock the other core to 600 mhz, set the brightness to %10, don&#039;t run wifi and bluetooth. While watching the notebook and ask yourself &quot;what the hell i&#039;ve done!&quot;, you will see 10 wh on idle.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>They are telling right. If you shut down one core, underclock the other core to 600 mhz, set the brightness to %10, don&#8217;t run wifi and bluetooth. While watching the notebook and ask yourself &#8220;what the hell i&#8217;ve done!&#8221;, you will see 10 wh on idle.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sumimoto (Sumocat)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Sumimoto (Sumocat)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 10:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Wait, if I forget the math, then how do I add those 2 lbs? ;P&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Wait, if I forget the math, then how do I add those 2 lbs? ;P</p>
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		<title>By: jk</title>
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		<dc:creator>jk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 10:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Forget the math, a 12 cell battery will add at least 2 pounds to a 4.5 pound device.  That is entering Gateway territory.  :)&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Forget the math, a 12 cell battery will add at least 2 pounds to a 4.5 pound device.  That is entering Gateway territory.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sumimoto (Sumocat)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Sumimoto (Sumocat)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 09:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Assuming &quot;average&quot; means &quot;normal&quot;, I think you can easily cut that 21W average in half by lowering screen brightness, turning off wireless connections, and going to standby every time you step away from the screen. Stay away from heavy processing, optical drive use, and hungry peripherals, and I&#039;d think it&#039;ll get &quot;up to&quot; maximum battery life. Doesn&#039;t sound like a very productive 16 hours though.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Assuming &#8220;average&#8221; means &#8220;normal&#8221;, I think you can easily cut that 21W average in half by lowering screen brightness, turning off wireless connections, and going to standby every time you step away from the screen. Stay away from heavy processing, optical drive use, and hungry peripherals, and I&#8217;d think it&#8217;ll get &#8220;up to&#8221; maximum battery life. Doesn&#8217;t sound like a very productive 16 hours though.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve / Chippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve / Chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 09:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi JK.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re right with your maths.&lt;br /&gt;
and they&#039;re probably right with theirs too.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To get 5hrs and 30 mins from a 55W battery, it needs to take 10W. In theory, that CPU with an efficient screen and good components could easily achieve 10w drain at idle. (If you turned the screen off, you&#039;d probably get more than that too but I guess they draw a line with their creative maths at &#039;unuseable&#039;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Minimum life on the device is probably going to be around 2 hours (playing a big DivX for example)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Table 19 on this doc gives some good info about power ono this CPU.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://download.intel.com/design/mobile/datashts/30922102.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://download.intel.com/design/mobile/datashts/30922102.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Hi JK.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right with your maths.<br />
and they&#8217;re probably right with theirs too.</p>
<p>To get 5hrs and 30 mins from a 55W battery, it needs to take 10W. In theory, that CPU with an efficient screen and good components could easily achieve 10w drain at idle. (If you turned the screen off, you&#8217;d probably get more than that too but I guess they draw a line with their creative maths at &#8216;unuseable&#8217;)</p>
<p>Minimum life on the device is probably going to be around 2 hours (playing a big DivX for example)</p>
<p>Table 19 on this doc gives some good info about power ono this CPU.<br />
<a href="http://download.intel.com/design/mobile/datashts/30922102.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://download.intel.com/design/mobile/datashts/30922102.pdf</a></p>
<p>Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: e</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 08:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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