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	<title>Comments on: BatteryEater results on the Q1P</title>
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		<title>By: John Christian</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/01/23/batteryeater_re/#comment-26728</link>
		<dc:creator>John Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ah the woes of copy paste, the 3rd reporting with Max performance and lowest brightness should read &quot;CPU Speed Max Performance and running at ~1 GHz&quot; naturally. :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think battery eater would empty my battery in 100 minutes or so... no luck here with that LED screen! :(&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Ah the woes of copy paste, the 3rd reporting with Max performance and lowest brightness should read &#8220;CPU Speed Max Performance and running at ~1 GHz&#8221; naturally. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think battery eater would empty my battery in 100 minutes or so&#8230; no luck here with that LED screen! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Christian</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/01/23/batteryeater_re/#comment-26731</link>
		<dc:creator>John Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ok here are some facts about my Q1P model number NP-Q1-V002/SEA.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Standard 3-cell battery.&lt;br /&gt;
Wear level: 7%&lt;br /&gt;
Full capacity: 26640 mWh&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Battery Manager Rate: Normal&lt;br /&gt;
Screen at LOWEST brightness (1/8)&lt;br /&gt;
CPU Speed Dynamic Switching and running at ~600 MHz&lt;br /&gt;
NHC -8,92W (Wireless On) and -7,737 (Wireless Off)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Battery Manager Rate: Normal&lt;br /&gt;
Screen at HIGHEST brightness (8/8)&lt;br /&gt;
CPU Speed Dynamic Switching and running at ~600 MHz&lt;br /&gt;
NHC -10,034W (Wireless On) and -9,613 (Wireless Off)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All wattage numbers are reported when the computer has&lt;br /&gt;
idled a bit to settle on 1-3% CPU load. The charge rate&lt;br /&gt;
seems to fluctuate somewhat even at idle. At times it&lt;br /&gt;
jumps up and down 1 watt.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now lets see the same numbers with More CPU power!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Battery Manager Rate: Max Performance&lt;br /&gt;
Screen at LOWEST brightness (1/8)&lt;br /&gt;
CPU Speed Max Performance and running at ~600 MHz&lt;br /&gt;
NHC -10,29W (Wireless On) and -8,136 (Wireless Off)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Battery Manager Rate: Max Performance&lt;br /&gt;
Screen at HIGHEST brightness (8/8)&lt;br /&gt;
CPU Speed Max Performance and running at ~1 GHz&lt;br /&gt;
NHC -11,333W (Wireless On) and -10,49 (Wireless Off)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So my Q1P seems to draw about 2 watts more than Kevins and some others. I guess the LED panel is something they have sneaked into the production at a later stage and some of us just got unlucky and got the old one! :(&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Ok here are some facts about my Q1P model number NP-Q1-V002/SEA.</p>
<p>Standard 3-cell battery.<br />
Wear level: 7%<br />
Full capacity: 26640 mWh</p>
<p>Battery Manager Rate: Normal<br />
Screen at LOWEST brightness (1/8)<br />
CPU Speed Dynamic Switching and running at ~600 MHz<br />
NHC -8,92W (Wireless On) and -7,737 (Wireless Off)</p>
<p>Battery Manager Rate: Normal<br />
Screen at HIGHEST brightness (8/8)<br />
CPU Speed Dynamic Switching and running at ~600 MHz<br />
NHC -10,034W (Wireless On) and -9,613 (Wireless Off)</p>
<p>All wattage numbers are reported when the computer has<br />
idled a bit to settle on 1-3% CPU load. The charge rate<br />
seems to fluctuate somewhat even at idle. At times it<br />
jumps up and down 1 watt.</p>
<p>Now lets see the same numbers with More CPU power!</p>
<p>Battery Manager Rate: Max Performance<br />
Screen at LOWEST brightness (1/8)<br />
CPU Speed Max Performance and running at ~600 MHz<br />
NHC -10,29W (Wireless On) and -8,136 (Wireless Off)</p>
<p>Battery Manager Rate: Max Performance<br />
Screen at HIGHEST brightness (8/8)<br />
CPU Speed Max Performance and running at ~1 GHz<br />
NHC -11,333W (Wireless On) and -10,49 (Wireless Off)</p>
<p>So my Q1P seems to draw about 2 watts more than Kevins and some others. I guess the LED panel is something they have sneaked into the production at a later stage and some of us just got unlucky and got the old one! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jkk</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/01/23/batteryeater_re/#comment-26733</link>
		<dc:creator>jkk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Stewe: you should run battery calibration tool in bios to get it back..&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Stewe: you should run battery calibration tool in bios to get it back..</p>
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		<title>By: Anton P. Nym</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/01/23/batteryeater_re/#comment-26735</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton P. Nym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;My standard Q1 battery still gives me about 2 hours of use, give-or-take ten minutes, even though NHC is reporting a &quot;wear rate&quot; of 30%.  (I left it running in the case once, and it hasn&#039;t been the same since.)  Before the wipeout I used to routinely get 2.5 hours on the 3-cell.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Getting only an hour out of it sounds like a fried battery to me, too.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt; -- Steve&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>My standard Q1 battery still gives me about 2 hours of use, give-or-take ten minutes, even though NHC is reporting a &#8220;wear rate&#8221; of 30%.  (I left it running in the case once, and it hasn&#8217;t been the same since.)  Before the wipeout I used to routinely get 2.5 hours on the 3-cell.</p>
<p>Getting only an hour out of it sounds like a fried battery to me, too.</p>
<p> &#8212; Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;That sounds like a battery problem for sure. I routinely got 2+ hours on the Q1 standard battery which at this point is 8 months old.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>That sounds like a battery problem for sure. I routinely got 2+ hours on the Q1 standard battery which at this point is 8 months old.</p>
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		<title>By: medah4rick</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/01/23/batteryeater_re/#comment-26740</link>
		<dc:creator>medah4rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;i think the celeron models have a defective standard battery.  the q1p probably has batterys that are doing what they should have been doing in the first place.  2-3 hrs real world usage.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;my q1&#039;s standard battery is only giving me an 1hr of usage.  i&#039;m trying to return it to samsung.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>i think the celeron models have a defective standard battery.  the q1p probably has batterys that are doing what they should have been doing in the first place.  2-3 hrs real world usage.</p>
<p>my q1&#8217;s standard battery is only giving me an 1hr of usage.  i&#8217;m trying to return it to samsung.</p>
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		<title>By: Willie</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/01/23/batteryeater_re/#comment-26741</link>
		<dc:creator>Willie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Is there a way to get the brighter screen to the q1.  The q1 isnt bright enough on the low settings.  And to watch a movies the brightness level has to all the way up.  And that kills the battery.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Is there a way to get the brighter screen to the q1.  The q1 isnt bright enough on the low settings.  And to watch a movies the brightness level has to all the way up.  And that kills the battery.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/01/23/batteryeater_re/#comment-26744</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Grimster, thanks for cracking open your unit and checking; I haven&#039;t done that yet. I didn&#039;t sit by the Q1P when I ran the test, so I can&#039;t confirm that the screen shut off during the test or not; all I can do is run it again, which I&#039;ll do today or tomorrow.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can tell that during real time usage, I used the Q1P last night for about 45 minutes with WiFi on. I checked the battery level at that time and it was around 73%. I then put the unit in sleep mode for dinner; roughly another hour. After I woke it up, I used it for another 1.5 hours, some of which that time was used to also run an external optical drive. I was doing a long installation (Office 2007) and saw the battery level warning icon in my tray so at that time I plugged it in. Roughly got 2.25 hours with an hour of sleep mode in the middle, which is more than I used to get with the Q1. I&#039;ll re-run the tests of course....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I should also mention that I had e-mail conversation with Steve at Carrypad yesterday and shared some Notebook Hardware Control data. In a relatively idle state, the Q1P was drawing around 7.5 to 8.5 watts with WiFi on. Turning the WiFi off yielded a drain in the 6.75 to 7.5 Watts. Bear in mind that all Q1 models have a 29 W/hr battery and that on my prior Q1 the drain was in the 8.7 to 10.8 watt range. I can&#039;t see the Pentium making that difference but again, I&#039;m willing to do more testing when time permits.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Grimster, thanks for cracking open your unit and checking; I haven&#8217;t done that yet. I didn&#8217;t sit by the Q1P when I ran the test, so I can&#8217;t confirm that the screen shut off during the test or not; all I can do is run it again, which I&#8217;ll do today or tomorrow.</p>
<p>I can tell that during real time usage, I used the Q1P last night for about 45 minutes with WiFi on. I checked the battery level at that time and it was around 73%. I then put the unit in sleep mode for dinner; roughly another hour. After I woke it up, I used it for another 1.5 hours, some of which that time was used to also run an external optical drive. I was doing a long installation (Office 2007) and saw the battery level warning icon in my tray so at that time I plugged it in. Roughly got 2.25 hours with an hour of sleep mode in the middle, which is more than I used to get with the Q1. I&#8217;ll re-run the tests of course&#8230;.</p>
<p>I should also mention that I had e-mail conversation with Steve at Carrypad yesterday and shared some Notebook Hardware Control data. In a relatively idle state, the Q1P was drawing around 7.5 to 8.5 watts with WiFi on. Turning the WiFi off yielded a drain in the 6.75 to 7.5 Watts. Bear in mind that all Q1 models have a 29 W/hr battery and that on my prior Q1 the drain was in the 8.7 to 10.8 watt range. I can&#8217;t see the Pentium making that difference but again, I&#8217;m willing to do more testing when time permits.</p>
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		<title>By: grimster</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/01/23/batteryeater_re/#comment-26746</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Confirmed High voltage inverter! NO LED SCREEN!!! I just bought my Q1p last week also. Model : NP-Q1-V002/SEA&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just took my Q1p apart and there is a high voltage inverter with the classic pink and white high voltage wires leading into the screen. This means there is a lamp inside the screen and NO LEDs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am NOT getting 2:38 on battery eater but only 1:56. IMO the tests are flawed. I dont believe any Q1ps have the LED screen. What I think happened is that he ran his Q1p with the autosceen shut off feature on. Hense the 2:38 he got.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Confirmed High voltage inverter! NO LED SCREEN!!! I just bought my Q1p last week also. Model : NP-Q1-V002/SEA</p>
<p>Just took my Q1p apart and there is a high voltage inverter with the classic pink and white high voltage wires leading into the screen. This means there is a lamp inside the screen and NO LEDs.</p>
<p>I am NOT getting 2:38 on battery eater but only 1:56. IMO the tests are flawed. I dont believe any Q1ps have the LED screen. What I think happened is that he ran his Q1p with the autosceen shut off feature on. Hense the 2:38 he got.</p>
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		<title>By: brian aurelio</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/01/23/batteryeater_re/#comment-26748</link>
		<dc:creator>brian aurelio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;i thought it had a mouse pointer. if not that is a big deficiency in the samsung. perhaps we&#039;ll have to wait for that kidc model to make an appearance.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>i thought it had a mouse pointer. if not that is a big deficiency in the samsung. perhaps we&#8217;ll have to wait for that kidc model to make an appearance.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;This is very good news for me.  I am considering getting a UMPC, replacing my Acer Tablet and am blogging about my search. (umpcsearch.blogspot.com)  One of my biggest concerns was battery life. Glad that these new UMPC&#039;s battery lives are improving.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>This is very good news for me.  I am considering getting a UMPC, replacing my Acer Tablet and am blogging about my search. (umpcsearch.blogspot.com)  One of my biggest concerns was battery life. Glad that these new UMPC&#8217;s battery lives are improving.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Paine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Paine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;No. Not perfect Brian.&lt;br /&gt;
Mouse pointer and docking port is missing!!&lt;br /&gt;
If they came out with a version based on the new Celeron 1.6Ghz ULV with mouse pointer and PCI-express card capable docking station I would sell out to get one!!&lt;br /&gt;
Steve.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>No. Not perfect Brian.<br />
Mouse pointer and docking port is missing!!<br />
If they came out with a version based on the new Celeron 1.6Ghz ULV with mouse pointer and PCI-express card capable docking station I would sell out to get one!!<br />
Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: jkk</title>
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		<dc:creator>jkk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;It would also need HlD touch drivers ... &lt;br /&gt;
With current drivers/bios you can&#039;t get any Tablet PC specific features.&lt;br /&gt;
More here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://origamiproject.com/forums/thread/15474.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://origamiproject.com/forums/thread/15474.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>It would also need HlD touch drivers &#8230; <br />
With current drivers/bios you can&#8217;t get any Tablet PC specific features.<br />
More here: <a href="http://origamiproject.com/forums/thread/15474.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://origamiproject.com/forums/thread/15474.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: brian aurelio</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian aurelio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;it seems to be that led lighting is great for battery life. all we need is either intel support for wddm drivers or samsung to switch to the 945 chipset and we have the absolutely perfect umpc for vista.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>it seems to be that led lighting is great for battery life. all we need is either intel support for wddm drivers or samsung to switch to the 945 chipset and we have the absolutely perfect umpc for vista.</p>
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		<title>By: jkk</title>
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		<dc:creator>jkk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;HG, just open your device and if you can&#039;t see any inverter connected to screen, it uses leds ;)&lt;br /&gt;
Inverter in q1 is about 1cm x 10cm pcb with 2 silicon cables connected to screen..&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>HG, just open your device and if you can&#8217;t see any inverter connected to screen, it uses leds <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />
Inverter in q1 is about 1cm x 10cm pcb with 2 silicon cables connected to screen..</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll be very curious to see what the OQO 02 can pull on this test.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not that I can afford one, mind you, but for purchase dreaming.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ll be very curious to see what the OQO 02 can pull on this test.</p>
<p>Not that I can afford one, mind you, but for purchase dreaming.</p>
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