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	<title>Comments on: Update on my largest mobile tech purchase. Ever.</title>
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	<description>Using mobile devices since they weighed 30 lbs.</description>
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		<title>By: Shane Conder</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/04/12/update_on_my_la/#comment-24350</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Conder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;On the topic of the break-even point:  If the hybrid credit is supposed to return something like 80% of the cost difference between that exact car and the non-hybrid version of the exact car (although average out over the entire model line, including options), wouldn&#039;t you have long since recovered the price premium for a Highlander hybrid versus the same options in a non-hybrid version?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your numbers show a $2500 in fuel savings and $2k for tax (sounds like you got the deduction, though, rather than the credit that showed up later).  That should have easily covered the cost premium, right?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here in CA the fuel economy dropped by about 2-4 MPG until the last few weeks on our Accord Hybrid.  It&#039;s surprised me how much difference a 40 degree morning can be from a 60 degree morning.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(from a UX280p toting hybrid owner...)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>On the topic of the break-even point:  If the hybrid credit is supposed to return something like 80% of the cost difference between that exact car and the non-hybrid version of the exact car (although average out over the entire model line, including options), wouldn&#8217;t you have long since recovered the price premium for a Highlander hybrid versus the same options in a non-hybrid version?</p>
<p>Your numbers show a $2500 in fuel savings and $2k for tax (sounds like you got the deduction, though, rather than the credit that showed up later).  That should have easily covered the cost premium, right?</p>
<p>Here in CA the fuel economy dropped by about 2-4 MPG until the last few weeks on our Accord Hybrid.  It&#8217;s surprised me how much difference a 40 degree morning can be from a 60 degree morning.</p>
<p>(from a UX280p toting hybrid owner&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Thanks for the update! I appreciate the information.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Thanks for the update! I appreciate the information.</p>
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		<title>By: dd</title>
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		<dc:creator>dd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;As a British person who reads this blog (great work btw guys), we&#039;ve an 06 Honda Civic (the European 1.8 version), that gets about 40-45mpg (now that it&#039;s bedded in) whatever the weather!  And petrol here is currently about 90-95p/litre!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, I must admit to having bought my Q1 in the States...simply because it was cheaper!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>As a British person who reads this blog (great work btw guys), we&#8217;ve an 06 Honda Civic (the European 1.8 version), that gets about 40-45mpg (now that it&#8217;s bedded in) whatever the weather!  And petrol here is currently about 90-95p/litre!</p>
<p>However, I must admit to having bought my Q1 in the States&#8230;simply because it was cheaper!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott_H</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/04/12/update_on_my_la/#comment-24353</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott_H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;...premium gas, which is around $3 a gallon in our neck of the woods.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Must be nice. In my neck of the woods, it&#039;s north of $7 a gallon.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>&#8220;&#8230;premium gas, which is around $3 a gallon in our neck of the woods.&#8221;</p>
<p>Must be nice. In my neck of the woods, it&#8217;s north of $7 a gallon.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/04/12/update_on_my_la/#comment-24355</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;No question there are some GREAT non-hybrid choices out there. Just like any other tech; it&#039;s a personal choice. We were limited to a degree because we need AT LEAST AWD (if not 4WD) where we live, plus we have the two kids. That put us in the small / crossover SUV camp. Additionally, most of our driving is at or under 35 to 40 MPH, i.e.: we rarely drive on highways. The Yaris is great on gas and efficiency; sweet!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>No question there are some GREAT non-hybrid choices out there. Just like any other tech; it&#8217;s a personal choice. We were limited to a degree because we need AT LEAST AWD (if not 4WD) where we live, plus we have the two kids. That put us in the small / crossover SUV camp. Additionally, most of our driving is at or under 35 to 40 MPH, i.e.: we rarely drive on highways. The Yaris is great on gas and efficiency; sweet!</p>
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		<title>By: ThoughtFix</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/04/12/update_on_my_la/#comment-24356</link>
		<dc:creator>ThoughtFix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was strongly considering a Prius last September. However, after a lot of research, I decided I&#039;d save much more money (both on gas and on the car) if, instead of a hybrid, I got something else. The single most fuel-efficient non-hybrid of the 2007 models: the Toyota Yaris. I named it Pluto after the former planet.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I averaged 38 MPG for the whole week of CES, including the six-hour drive each way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s go hug some trees! I&#039;m in!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I was strongly considering a Prius last September. However, after a lot of research, I decided I&#8217;d save much more money (both on gas and on the car) if, instead of a hybrid, I got something else. The single most fuel-efficient non-hybrid of the 2007 models: the Toyota Yaris. I named it Pluto after the former planet.</p>
<p>I averaged 38 MPG for the whole week of CES, including the six-hour drive each way.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s go hug some trees! I&#8217;m in!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/04/12/update_on_my_la/#comment-24358</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Sumocat, you could be right. My take on the colder weather impact: we get our best gas savings when the engine is at it&#039;s warmest and it takes much longer to get to the normal temp during the winter. That and the fact that colder batteries seem to have less &#039;kick&#039; and don&#039;t hold a charge as long in the cold, but I&#039;m definitely no expert in battery power.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Sumocat, you could be right. My take on the colder weather impact: we get our best gas savings when the engine is at it&#8217;s warmest and it takes much longer to get to the normal temp during the winter. That and the fact that colder batteries seem to have less &#8216;kick&#8217; and don&#8217;t hold a charge as long in the cold, but I&#8217;m definitely no expert in battery power.</p>
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		<title>By: Sumocat</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/04/12/update_on_my_la/#comment-24359</link>
		<dc:creator>Sumocat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;With our Prius, I&#039;ve also noticed that gasoline usage is higher in cold weather, but from observation, I think it&#039;s largely because Toyota hybrids rely on the gas engine for heat, same as conventional vehicles. This means the gas engine will kick in just to produce heat even when idling.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, our average mpg doesn&#039;t drop nearly as much as yours. Maybe down two or three from our usual average around 45 mpg (which is down one or two from what it was before the area switched to 10% ethanol gasoline). But then again, you get a lot more snow than we do in VA.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>With our Prius, I&#8217;ve also noticed that gasoline usage is higher in cold weather, but from observation, I think it&#8217;s largely because Toyota hybrids rely on the gas engine for heat, same as conventional vehicles. This means the gas engine will kick in just to produce heat even when idling.</p>
<p>However, our average mpg doesn&#8217;t drop nearly as much as yours. Maybe down two or three from our usual average around 45 mpg (which is down one or two from what it was before the area switched to 10% ethanol gasoline). But then again, you get a lot more snow than we do in VA.</p>
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