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		<title>By: Fuzzystyle</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/10/20/informationweek/#comment-59689</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuzzystyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 01:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your not a geek, then the Nokia N810 is clearly not for you.. but considering it can act as a full on webserver (apache or thttp) and stream the webcam built in over http as well. Oh, and you can plug flashdrives and usb harddrives into it. The N810 is a ARM based linux computer, simple as that... SSH, FTP, blowfish encryption, PDF reader (kinetic scrolling), ur-quan masters. Can even knock out WEP encryption but is not as efficient as a laptop. It&#039;s my linux ipod sub-computer that has bash :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your not a geek, then the Nokia N810 is clearly not for you.. but considering it can act as a full on webserver (apache or thttp) and stream the webcam built in over http as well. Oh, and you can plug flashdrives and usb harddrives into it. The N810 is a ARM based linux computer, simple as that&#8230; SSH, FTP, blowfish encryption, PDF reader (kinetic scrolling), ur-quan masters. Can even knock out WEP encryption but is not as efficient as a laptop. It&#8217;s my linux ipod sub-computer that has bash <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mia</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/10/20/informationweek/#comment-17377</link>
		<dc:creator>mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I cannot get gpe to work on the n810. Any ideas?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I cannot get gpe to work on the n810. Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: chi</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/10/20/informationweek/#comment-17380</link>
		<dc:creator>chi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;i really like how the n810 has ssh and vnc clients on it. and since my college campus has wifi pretty much everywhere, i can access my computer, or server anytime i want, and i don&#039;t have to carry around a laptop.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>i really like how the n810 has ssh and vnc clients on it. and since my college campus has wifi pretty much everywhere, i can access my computer, or server anytime i want, and i don&#8217;t have to carry around a laptop.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/10/20/informationweek/#comment-17383</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I own an N800, and have been very happy with it.  If the screen was any larger, I wouldn&#039;t be able to slip the device into my inside coat pocket.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The included email client for the N800 is weak, but there&#039;s an add-on client named Claws mail that works quite well.  There&#039;s also an email client named Modest, currently in development, that will replace the email client bundled with the N800 and N810.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wouldn&#039;t hesitate to recommend the N800. It&#039;s great for general Internet use; web-surfing, checking email, using Skype, and instant messenger.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One area where the N800 shines is instant-access -- I tend to leave the tablet turned on and lock the screen and keys; in this mode, it lasts for several days without re-charging. I then unlock the screen and keys by pressing the power button and the center button on the thumbpad.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I did find that the battery would run down much more rapidly in this locked mode if I enabled applets which resulted in periodic network activity; in retrospect, this makes perfect sense as the tablet wouldn&#039;t be able to &quot;sleep&quot; completely if applets are polling for weather conditions, new email, instant messenger contact status, etc.  My battery life went back to 3 days in locked-mode after disabling these applets and quitting out of Skype before locking the device.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I pair the N800 with my AT&amp;T Samsung Sync via Bluetooth when outside of WiFi coverage.  The latency is much higher than WiFi, but overall speed is decent.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d give the N800 8/10.  The built-in camera is a little grainy (it&#039;s equivalent to a cheap webcam, or a cell-phone camera).  The button placement for the zoom-out, full-screen, and zoom-in buttons is awkward (all three small buttons are next to each other, and difficult to distinguish by touch alone).  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m really impressed by how many things they got right, though.  The screen, while not huge, is REALLY crisp.  The stylus / touchscreen control works really well.  The fold out stand gives a nice grip to hold the deice with, and puts the screen at a nice angle on a desktop.  The browser has Adobe Flash support and can handle almost any site, without degrading from the full experience.  The firmware update that added a Mozilla Firefox based browser engine really added a lot of web site compatibility over the original Opera browser based engine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For mobile Internet use, the N800&#039;s raison d&#039;etre, it&#039;s terrific.  As a PIM or mobile office document station, not so much; there&#039;s no decent PIM apps, no MS Office document compatibility, etc.  The GPE suite is available for Maemo (the framework that the N800 utilizes), but it&#039;s fairly primitive compared to PIM suites on office-oriented devices.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;GPE -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own an N800, and have been very happy with it.  If the screen was any larger, I wouldn&#8217;t be able to slip the device into my inside coat pocket.</p>
<p>The included email client for the N800 is weak, but there&#8217;s an add-on client named Claws mail that works quite well.  There&#8217;s also an email client named Modest, currently in development, that will replace the email client bundled with the N800 and N810.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate to recommend the N800. It&#8217;s great for general Internet use; web-surfing, checking email, using Skype, and instant messenger.  </p>
<p>One area where the N800 shines is instant-access &#8212; I tend to leave the tablet turned on and lock the screen and keys; in this mode, it lasts for several days without re-charging. I then unlock the screen and keys by pressing the power button and the center button on the thumbpad.  </p>
<p>I did find that the battery would run down much more rapidly in this locked mode if I enabled applets which resulted in periodic network activity; in retrospect, this makes perfect sense as the tablet wouldn&#8217;t be able to &#8220;sleep&#8221; completely if applets are polling for weather conditions, new email, instant messenger contact status, etc.  My battery life went back to 3 days in locked-mode after disabling these applets and quitting out of Skype before locking the device.</p>
<p>I pair the N800 with my AT&#038;T Samsung Sync via Bluetooth when outside of WiFi coverage.  The latency is much higher than WiFi, but overall speed is decent.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d give the N800 8/10.  The built-in camera is a little grainy (it&#8217;s equivalent to a cheap webcam, or a cell-phone camera).  The button placement for the zoom-out, full-screen, and zoom-in buttons is awkward (all three small buttons are next to each other, and difficult to distinguish by touch alone).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m really impressed by how many things they got right, though.  The screen, while not huge, is REALLY crisp.  The stylus / touchscreen control works really well.  The fold out stand gives a nice grip to hold the deice with, and puts the screen at a nice angle on a desktop.  The browser has Adobe Flash support and can handle almost any site, without degrading from the full experience.  The firmware update that added a Mozilla Firefox based browser engine really added a lot of web site compatibility over the original Opera browser based engine.</p>
<p>For mobile Internet use, the N800&#8217;s raison d&#8217;etre, it&#8217;s terrific.  As a PIM or mobile office document station, not so much; there&#8217;s no decent PIM apps, no MS Office document compatibility, etc.  The GPE suite is available for Maemo (the framework that the N800 utilizes), but it&#8217;s fairly primitive compared to PIM suites on office-oriented devices.</p>
<p>GPE &#8212; <a href="http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/" rel="nofollow">http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: wls</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/10/20/informationweek/#comment-17387</link>
		<dc:creator>wls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I&#039;m very tempted by this also but I am concerned about the apps issue. There really are not that many compared to what is available for the X86 architecture. The Q1U/EL is available for $800 and although that is almost twice as much as the M810 it has a bigger screen and is much more customizeable in being able to install whatever apps you want. Which should I get?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I&#8217;m very tempted by this also but I am concerned about the apps issue. There really are not that many compared to what is available for the X86 architecture. The Q1U/EL is available for $800 and although that is almost twice as much as the M810 it has a bigger screen and is much more customizeable in being able to install whatever apps you want. Which should I get?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/10/20/informationweek/#comment-17393</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I really hope that Nokia finally tossed in a decent email client, and I hope to God that I can get a good PIM into it, ideally synced to an Exchange server.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, there&#039;s one thing that the Nokia IT devices have sucked at:  Inking.  I would absolutely love if they fixed that, and for that matter, added a rear camera.  It&#039;s one of those things that makes stuff like OneNote so interesting, and the inability to rotate the camera (as you could with the N800) takes any workalike options away.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I really hope that Nokia finally tossed in a decent email client, and I hope to God that I can get a good PIM into it, ideally synced to an Exchange server.</p>
<p>However, there&#8217;s one thing that the Nokia IT devices have sucked at:  Inking.  I would absolutely love if they fixed that, and for that matter, added a rear camera.  It&#8217;s one of those things that makes stuff like OneNote so interesting, and the inability to rotate the camera (as you could with the N800) takes any workalike options away.</p>
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		<title>By: arjaan</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/10/20/informationweek/#comment-17396</link>
		<dc:creator>arjaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;800x480 screen resolution? Anyone?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>800&#215;480 screen resolution? Anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/10/20/informationweek/#comment-17398</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;And, oh yeah:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Asus Eee = $400 for real computer&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;N810 = $480 for ... uh, whut?!!?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>And, oh yeah:</p>
<p>Asus Eee = $400 for real computer</p>
<p>N810 = $480 for &#8230; uh, whut?!!?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/10/20/informationweek/#comment-17400</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;If you only want to carry one device, the N810 isn&#039;t likely to meet your needs and I&#039;ll grant that, although the hard core among us could make it work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How is what you said any different from him saying:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;[T]he N810 looks to me like an expensive geek toy.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Add a phone to it and what&#039;s the difference between it and an HTC WinMob device with touchscreen?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh yeah: You&#039;re likely to be able to get APPS for the WinMob one.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Die Nokia Die.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>>>>If you only want to carry one device, the N810 isn&#8217;t likely to meet your needs and I&#8217;ll grant that, although the hard core among us could make it work.</p>
<p>How is what you said any different from him saying:</p>
<p>&#8220;[T]he N810 looks to me like an expensive geek toy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Add a phone to it and what&#8217;s the difference between it and an HTC WinMob device with touchscreen?</p>
<p>Oh yeah: You&#8217;re likely to be able to get APPS for the WinMob one.</p>
<p>Die Nokia Die.</p>
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		<title>By: arjaan</title>
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		<dc:creator>arjaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I do get the purpose, it think. Atleast, it fits my purpose. I have a N800 and I wouldn&#039;t trade it for a large smartphone (&quot;Is that your gun or...?&quot; &quot;No, that&#039;s my phone&quot;). It is my ideal companion to my slick Sony Ericsson W880i. Having to browse on your mobile is to much compromise. To carry a notebook (or equaly sized tabled) for some browsing and email is just overkill. Don&#039;t try to work on it, but have fun with it. Unless your work is having fun ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I do get the purpose, it think. Atleast, it fits my purpose. I have a N800 and I wouldn&#8217;t trade it for a large smartphone (&#8220;Is that your gun or&#8230;?&#8221; &#8220;No, that&#8217;s my phone&#8221;). It is my ideal companion to my slick Sony Ericsson W880i. Having to browse on your mobile is to much compromise. To carry a notebook (or equaly sized tabled) for some browsing and email is just overkill. Don&#8217;t try to work on it, but have fun with it. Unless your work is having fun <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PJE</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m very tempted by the N810, the main thing stopping me buying it as soon as it comes out is its size. I would much prefer the exact same machine with a 7&quot; screen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You have to factor the full function GPS into the $479 price. At present I would go with the $240 N800, but I can see a benefit for a GPS in the future when location based services increase.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was going for the EeePC until I found out they are currently reducing the CPU MHz due to heat issues, so I think I wait for the N810 to come down in price, the 2nd generation EeePC with the menlow processor or the rumored 7&quot; Apple touch tablet.&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>I&#8217;m very tempted by the N810, the main thing stopping me buying it as soon as it comes out is its size. I would much prefer the exact same machine with a 7&#8243; screen.</p>
<p>You have to factor the full function GPS into the $479 price. At present I would go with the $240 N800, but I can see a benefit for a GPS in the future when location based services increase.</p>
<p>I was going for the EeePC until I found out they are currently reducing the CPU MHz due to heat issues, so I think I wait for the N810 to come down in price, the 2nd generation EeePC with the menlow processor or the rumored 7&#8243; Apple touch tablet.
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