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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/11/02/gmail-youre-not/#comment-16886</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since i use my email service from at least 2 computer and my palm i was always looking for some really reliable service which is not expensive. I had tried several in the last 2 years and in the end i decided to use www. Fusemail.com .&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Since over 1 year i am using it and i am really happy. imap works flawless and fast and their pricing is ok. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Since i use my email service from at least 2 computer and my palm i was always looking for some really reliable service which is not expensive. I had tried several in the last 2 years and in the end i decided to use www. Fusemail.com .</p>
<p>Since over 1 year i am using it and i am really happy. imap works flawless and fast and their pricing is ok. </p>
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		<title>By: Joe T.</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/11/02/gmail-youre-not/#comment-16887</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;cr0ft, I agree for POP3.  The only benefits of having a local e-mail client that I can see are speed and offline use.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1. Speed is becoming less of an issue because of network speed and web e-mail providers&#039; implementation (the new Yahoo mail, for example, is implemented with the classic three-pane view with speedy display of the next message);  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2. Offline use is not often needed for devices connected via broadband cellphone services (EVDO, etc.), or non-travelling devices like desktops.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And the benefit of not having to manage backups of e-mail data is wonderful.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;IMAP is the magical standard that does not make you manage backup, but still allows offline access.  The best of both worlds, if you can get it working properly (thanks much, Kevin, for leading us).  IMAP would have been more of a godsend a couple of years ago before broadband cell access, but implementations lagged. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>cr0ft, I agree for POP3.  The only benefits of having a local e-mail client that I can see are speed and offline use.</p>
<p>1. Speed is becoming less of an issue because of network speed and web e-mail providers&#8217; implementation (the new Yahoo mail, for example, is implemented with the classic three-pane view with speedy display of the next message);  </p>
<p>2. Offline use is not often needed for devices connected via broadband cellphone services (EVDO, etc.), or non-travelling devices like desktops.</p>
<p>And the benefit of not having to manage backups of e-mail data is wonderful.</p>
<p>IMAP is the magical standard that does not make you manage backup, but still allows offline access.  The best of both worlds, if you can get it working properly (thanks much, Kevin, for leading us).  IMAP would have been more of a godsend a couple of years ago before broadband cell access, but implementations lagged. </p>
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		<title>By: cr0ft</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/11/02/gmail-youre-not/#comment-16889</link>
		<dc:creator>cr0ft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Personally I don&#039;t really get the need to use IMAP or POP for that matter. The web interface is great, I can do anything there I need to and it is accessible literally everywhere. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Personally I don&#8217;t really get the need to use IMAP or POP for that matter. The web interface is great, I can do anything there I need to and it is accessible literally everywhere. </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/11/02/gmail-youre-not/#comment-16891</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Looks like the issue sorted itself out and could be related to my marking everything read in the &quot;All Items&quot; mailbox because the &quot;24658&quot; of unreads showing was annoying me. ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;According to Google: &quot;IMAP clients aren&#039;t always designed to handle the huge amount of mail that users store in Gmail. If you have thousands of messages in your labels, we recommend doing some housework to clean up your labels in the Web interface. Remember, the web interface shows counts of threads, not messages.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Looks like the issue sorted itself out and could be related to my marking everything read in the &#8220;All Items&#8221; mailbox because the &#8220;24658&#8243; of unreads showing was annoying me. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>According to Google: &#8220;IMAP clients aren&#8217;t always designed to handle the huge amount of mail that users store in Gmail. If you have thousands of messages in your labels, we recommend doing some housework to clean up your labels in the Web interface. Remember, the web interface shows counts of threads, not messages.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/11/02/gmail-youre-not/#comment-16893</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;No arguments on the paying for services thoughts, but seriously... this should be working. We&#039;ve heard for years about &quot;web workers&quot; using free services... more and more are doing this without incident. I&#039;m thinking that in adding support for IMAP, somehow Gmail uncharactisically hasn&#039;t been able to scale up to support it. My mail on the web client is fine so I think it&#039;s specific to IMAP. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s Mac Mail because the same issue is happening on my iPhone and Dash.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Josh, I have a .Mac account and I&#039;ve subscribed to Chris&#039;s feed for years. I used to write for Chris; thanks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>No arguments on the paying for services thoughts, but seriously&#8230; this should be working. We&#8217;ve heard for years about &#8220;web workers&#8221; using free services&#8230; more and more are doing this without incident. I&#8217;m thinking that in adding support for IMAP, somehow Gmail uncharactisically hasn&#8217;t been able to scale up to support it. My mail on the web client is fine so I think it&#8217;s specific to IMAP. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s Mac Mail because the same issue is happening on my iPhone and Dash.</p>
<p>Josh, I have a .Mac account and I&#8217;ve subscribed to Chris&#8217;s feed for years. I used to write for Chris; thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: JHall</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/11/02/gmail-youre-not/#comment-16895</link>
		<dc:creator>JHall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;You should try a .Mac account goto thier web site and check it out. You get back to my mac, 10 gb storage and a lot of other stuff. Chris Prillio has a video podcast on the subject. You can subscribe to his feed. I think the episode is ( is .Mac worth it?) He says that you can do things that you are not able to do on windows. Also it is $99&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just a thought,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Joshua A. Hall&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>You should try a .Mac account goto thier web site and check it out. You get back to my mac, 10 gb storage and a lot of other stuff. Chris Prillio has a video podcast on the subject. You can subscribe to his feed. I think the episode is ( is .Mac worth it?) He says that you can do things that you are not able to do on windows. Also it is $99</p>
<p>Just a thought,</p>
<p>Joshua A. Hall</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/11/02/gmail-youre-not/#comment-16896</link>
		<dc:creator>James Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;You get what you pay for.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>You get what you pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt G</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2007/11/02/gmail-youre-not/#comment-16897</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I always feel like for certain things you pay for convienence.  This is probably one of those times.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I always feel like for certain things you pay for convienence.  This is probably one of those times.</p>
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