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		<title>By: Garnet</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/02/21/cnet-hp-2133-to/#comment-13251</link>
		<dc:creator>Garnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I LOVE my Asus Eee PC 4G, but I&#039;ll admit I&#039;d give it up for a mini-laptop in the same price catagory with a bigger keyboard that I can touch type on &amp; an 8.9&quot; screen!!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I&#039;m a little disappointed that it only supports Windows Vista &amp; Linux.  Vista is HORRIBLE!  I&#039;d be happier if they made it compatible with Windows XP &amp; provided a disk with drivers like Asus Eee PC does.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cheers, Garnet&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>But I&#8217;m a little disappointed that it only supports Windows Vista &#038; Linux.  Vista is HORRIBLE!  I&#8217;d be happier if they made it compatible with Windows XP &#038; provided a disk with drivers like Asus Eee PC does.</p>
<p>Cheers, Garnet</p>
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		<title>By: Perky Nerky</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/02/21/cnet-hp-2133-to/#comment-13255</link>
		<dc:creator>Perky Nerky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Clams? Bones?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/02/21/cnet-hp-2133-to/#comment-13259</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nate: Thanks for the warning.  So, you think aluminum will really be tin?  (Or, god forbid, from China -- lead!)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not interested in a bed or couch computer.  This is for when I am out and about and need to get work done too.  Bed and couch are for relaxing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Nate: Thanks for the warning.  So, you think aluminum will really be tin?  (Or, god forbid, from China &#8212; lead!)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not interested in a bed or couch computer.  This is for when I am out and about and need to get work done too.  Bed and couch are for relaxing.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you own a TX, there would be no reason to get one. A lot of people aren&#039;t willing to shell out the clams for the TX though.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cheapskates, like me, are much more willing to blow 500 bones.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>If you own a TX, there would be no reason to get one. A lot of people aren&#8217;t willing to shell out the clams for the TX though.</p>
<p>Cheapskates, like me, are much more willing to blow 500 bones.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/02/21/cnet-hp-2133-to/#comment-13262</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s certainly an interesting niche, but I&#039;m not convinced that this is the right form factor - although I have no complaints about the price.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For the past 4 years or so, I will often sit in bed and while watching TV, cruise the web on some form of a Sony T series.  It&#039;s very light and there are times that I enjoy the keyboard.  Prior to that, I did the same thing with a TC1100.  The weird thing is that I would never consider just sitting on my living room couch with the Sony - it&#039;s sort of strictly a bed lounging machine - not a couch machine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What I would be really interested in, is an 8&quot; or 9&quot; tablet at around a $750 or so price point and a 2.5lb or less weight.  Something like the Q, but I had the Q and returned it - I thought it was a dog (sorry Kevin, I know you like(d) yours).  Something that I could see using on my couch while watching TV and using at night from bed, or first thing in the morning to check emails and feeds.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s sort of what I am looking for.  Although the HP has appeal, if I already own a TX, why would I get one? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s certainly an interesting niche, but I&#8217;m not convinced that this is the right form factor &#8211; although I have no complaints about the price.  </p>
<p>For the past 4 years or so, I will often sit in bed and while watching TV, cruise the web on some form of a Sony T series.  It&#8217;s very light and there are times that I enjoy the keyboard.  Prior to that, I did the same thing with a TC1100.  The weird thing is that I would never consider just sitting on my living room couch with the Sony &#8211; it&#8217;s sort of strictly a bed lounging machine &#8211; not a couch machine.</p>
<p>What I would be really interested in, is an 8&#8243; or 9&#8243; tablet at around a $750 or so price point and a 2.5lb or less weight.  Something like the Q, but I had the Q and returned it &#8211; I thought it was a dog (sorry Kevin, I know you like(d) yours).  Something that I could see using on my couch while watching TV and using at night from bed, or first thing in the morning to check emails and feeds.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s sort of what I am looking for.  Although the HP has appeal, if I already own a TX, why would I get one? </p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I like HP. But, trust me, when HP wants to go cheap, they can go cheap with the best of them. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They&#039;ve sold me their fair share of lemons, especially on the low end, right where this baby&#039;s going to be.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I like HP. But, trust me, when HP wants to go cheap, they can go cheap with the best of them. </p>
<p>They&#8217;ve sold me their fair share of lemons, especially on the low end, right where this baby&#8217;s going to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/02/21/cnet-hp-2133-to/#comment-13266</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Oh, one more thing when it comes to this particular machine versus all the others: It&#039;s from hp.  hp doesn&#039;t do fall-apart hardware.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Oh, one more thing when it comes to this particular machine versus all the others: It&#8217;s from hp.  hp doesn&#8217;t do fall-apart hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/02/21/cnet-hp-2133-to/#comment-13268</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;There is something some people fail to remember.  For me the issues are:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1) Price.  I&#039;m toting this around.  If it gets bashed or dropped, I won&#039;t have a heart attack at the lost money.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2) Size.  I&#039;m toting this around.  It has to be light and small.  (MacBook Air is too large and a half-pound heavier.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3) I&#039;m not yet convinced I&#039;d use inking so I don&#039;t need a touchscreen.  I&#039;d plant XP on it, anyway.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;$499 probably = Linux, btw.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The most important piece of info is still missing: WHEN!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>There is something some people fail to remember.  For me the issues are:</p>
<p>1) Price.  I&#8217;m toting this around.  If it gets bashed or dropped, I won&#8217;t have a heart attack at the lost money.</p>
<p>2) Size.  I&#8217;m toting this around.  It has to be light and small.  (MacBook Air is too large and a half-pound heavier.)</p>
<p>3) I&#8217;m not yet convinced I&#8217;d use inking so I don&#8217;t need a touchscreen.  I&#8217;d plant XP on it, anyway.</p>
<p>$499 probably = Linux, btw.</p>
<p>The most important piece of info is still missing: WHEN!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dave, I&#039;m not sure who you&#039;re asking &quot;why are you so against this product?&quot; I don&#039;t see anyone in the thread that isn&#039;t excited by it and I didn&#039;t say anything negative in my write-up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;ArchiMark, your question makes sense but the long and short of it is that not everyone sees or wants the benefits of having a tablet. However, if this device in notebook form is $500 and it could be offered in a convertible Tablet PC model for another $100 or so, I&#039;d snap one up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Dave, I&#8217;m not sure who you&#8217;re asking &#8220;why are you so against this product?&#8221; I don&#8217;t see anyone in the thread that isn&#8217;t excited by it and I didn&#8217;t say anything negative in my write-up.</p>
<p>ArchiMark, your question makes sense but the long and short of it is that not everyone sees or wants the benefits of having a tablet. However, if this device in notebook form is $500 and it could be offered in a convertible Tablet PC model for another $100 or so, I&#8217;d snap one up.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Asus showed us that if the price is sub-$500 the features are far less important to many.  That&#039;s what HP is shooting for, I&#039;m sure.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Asus showed us that if the price is sub-$500 the features are far less important to many.  That&#8217;s what HP is shooting for, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is excellent news.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If this price is true, we may have a new leader in the tiny notebook market. Asus can&#039;t be thrilled about the prospect of going toe-to-toe with HP&#039;s marketing muscle, and Everex may as well just throw in the towel this afternoon.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My Eee isn&#039;t looking so great next to this beauty.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>This is excellent news.</p>
<p>If this price is true, we may have a new leader in the tiny notebook market. Asus can&#8217;t be thrilled about the prospect of going toe-to-toe with HP&#8217;s marketing muscle, and Everex may as well just throw in the towel this afternoon.</p>
<p>My Eee isn&#8217;t looking so great next to this beauty.</p>
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		<title>By: ArchiMark</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArchiMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;While the design of the HP looks very nice, I&#039;m wondering why one would want this device over the similarly sized Fujitsu P1610/1620 OTHER than the lower price of the HP?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Assuming that one ignores the price difference wouldn&#039;t you want the Fujitsu convertible tablet design with touchscreen, etc...????&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Or is it just about the fact that the price IS so much lower that the feature differences don&#039;t matter at that point???&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hope this makes sense....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;;-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>While the design of the HP looks very nice, I&#8217;m wondering why one would want this device over the similarly sized Fujitsu P1610/1620 OTHER than the lower price of the HP?</p>
<p>Assuming that one ignores the price difference wouldn&#8217;t you want the Fujitsu convertible tablet design with touchscreen, etc&#8230;????</p>
<p>Or is it just about the fact that the price IS so much lower that the feature differences don&#8217;t matter at that point???</p>
<p>Hope this makes sense&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;why are you so against this product?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>why are you so against this product?</p>
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		<title>By: Woadan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woadan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I like HP and their products. But the likelihood that I would buy this product is less likely than I&#039;ll be buying an iPAQ of any sort.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not a fan of the VIA chips, and they&#039;ll have to go very far before I&#039;d be interested in such a device.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Woadan&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I like HP and their products. But the likelihood that I would buy this product is less likely than I&#8217;ll be buying an iPAQ of any sort.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of the VIA chips, and they&#8217;ll have to go very far before I&#8217;d be interested in such a device.</p>
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		<title>By: david kroh</title>
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		<dc:creator>david kroh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;i have to say i have the UX390N..and i have small hands..and i hate typing on the thing and the screen is too small. 7-8 inches is a nice niche&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>i have to say i have the UX390N..and i have small hands..and i hate typing on the thing and the screen is too small. 7-8 inches is a nice niche</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Greetings:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is excellent news for the UMPC market.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although I don&#039;t consider the HP 2133 a UMPC but a Mini Laptop, it still is good news.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the end of 2008 I believe that most UMPC&#039;s in screen sizes between 4.5 inches to 6 inches will have a starting price of $500.00.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Regards Robert&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Greetings:</p>
<p>This is excellent news for the UMPC market.</p>
<p>Although I don&#8217;t consider the HP 2133 a UMPC but a Mini Laptop, it still is good news.</p>
<p>By the end of 2008 I believe that most UMPC&#8217;s in screen sizes between 4.5 inches to 6 inches will have a starting price of $500.00.</p>
<p>Regards Robert</p>
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