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	<title>Comments on: Fujitsu P1620 vs. the HP 2710p- my thoughts</title>
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		<title>By: Div_454</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/02/29/fujitsu-p1620-v/#comment-44823</link>
		<dc:creator>Div_454</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James one small question.

Did You install Sp1 for vista on P1620 via Windows update?

If Yes give Us more information what drivers stopp install Sp1 to Vista.
And where we find correct drivers ?

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<p>Did You install Sp1 for vista on P1620 via Windows update?</p>
<p>If Yes give Us more information what drivers stopp install Sp1 to Vista.<br />
And where we find correct drivers ?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Sagem</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/02/29/fujitsu-p1620-v/#comment-12744</link>
		<dc:creator>Sagem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;The middle mouse was too sticky for me&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Genghis Khent</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/02/29/fujitsu-p1620-v/#comment-12746</link>
		<dc:creator>Genghis Khent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;BTW, the F5 is official! The product page is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motioncomputing.com/products/tablet_pc_f5.asp.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.motioncomputing.com/products/tablet_pc_f5.asp.&lt;/a&gt; James was right. First impression is that it&#039;s an C5 clone for mobile field workers. No multi-touch, though it has WWAN. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>BTW, the F5 is official! The product page is <a href="http://www.motioncomputing.com/products/tablet_pc_f5.asp." rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.motioncomputing.com/products/tablet_pc_f5.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.motioncomputing.com/products/tablet_pc_f5.asp</a>. James was right. First impression is that it&#8217;s an C5 clone for mobile field workers. No multi-touch, though it has WWAN. </p>
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		<title>By: Genghis Khent</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/02/29/fujitsu-p1620-v/#comment-12748</link>
		<dc:creator>Genghis Khent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks ignar for the link on the C1. The P100 apparently lacks a PC Card slot. That&#039;s a show stopper for me since I plan to switch a data card between tablets much as James probably does between his P1620 and 2710p. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rockville, like you I&#039;ve more or less given up on Motion&#039;s upcoming tablet we&#039;ve dubbed the F5 on GBM. Though if it had capacitive touch functionality I might go for it nevertheless. That&#039;s what I&#039;m waiting for in a 12&quot; tablet, the X71 being priced out of the ballpark (and I&#039;d rather buy from someone with more of a Tablet PC track record than Dell). Perhaps Motion&#039;s next refresh of the LE1700, which originally was going to be multi-touch. Unfortunately, I think we have a wait.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Thanks ignar for the link on the C1. The P100 apparently lacks a PC Card slot. That&#8217;s a show stopper for me since I plan to switch a data card between tablets much as James probably does between his P1620 and 2710p. </p>
<p>Rockville, like you I&#8217;ve more or less given up on Motion&#8217;s upcoming tablet we&#8217;ve dubbed the F5 on GBM. Though if it had capacitive touch functionality I might go for it nevertheless. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m waiting for in a 12&#8243; tablet, the X71 being priced out of the ballpark (and I&#8217;d rather buy from someone with more of a Tablet PC track record than Dell). Perhaps Motion&#8217;s next refresh of the LE1700, which originally was going to be multi-touch. Unfortunately, I think we have a wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Rockville</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/02/29/fujitsu-p1620-v/#comment-12751</link>
		<dc:creator>Rockville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 08:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since the F5 has not been released, we can all stop thinking about it as it is a full show stopper for what we would want. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Motion seems to be striving for differentiation and vertical markets and wants to keep away from the commercial fray so it doesn&#039;t have to compete with Fujitsu, Toshiba, HP etc..   It&#039;s unfortunate, since an updated LS900 would have most likely given the Fujitsu 1620 a strong competitor.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;their only commercial saving grace would be to come out with a 12&quot; slate that was thin like apple and light to fit in a normal portfolio case that we would carry around instead of paper. that would shake up the market a  bit. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For now,  It seems its the P1620 or nothing....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Since the F5 has not been released, we can all stop thinking about it as it is a full show stopper for what we would want. </p>
<p>Motion seems to be striving for differentiation and vertical markets and wants to keep away from the commercial fray so it doesn&#8217;t have to compete with Fujitsu, Toshiba, HP etc..   It&#8217;s unfortunate, since an updated LS900 would have most likely given the Fujitsu 1620 a strong competitor.  </p>
<p>their only commercial saving grace would be to come out with a 12&#8243; slate that was thin like apple and light to fit in a normal portfolio case that we would carry around instead of paper. that would shake up the market a  bit. </p>
<p>For now,  It seems its the P1620 or nothing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ignar</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;TonyP, add me to the list of 2710P users who are not happy with the screen quality. I also considered returning 2710p for its washed out screen, and I am surprised that there are not as many comments about the poor screen by 2710p users as I expected. Some reported that applying a screen protector can improve the screen quality, so that&#039;s what I plan to try soon. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>TonyP, add me to the list of 2710P users who are not happy with the screen quality. I also considered returning 2710p for its washed out screen, and I am surprised that there are not as many comments about the poor screen by 2710p users as I expected. Some reported that applying a screen protector can improve the screen quality, so that&#8217;s what I plan to try soon. </p>
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		<title>By: ignar</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Genghis, the most common complaints about LG C1 are battery life and price. It costs over $2000 in Korea, and certainly will cost more if imported by dynamism or others. I think it is positioned somewhere between Fujitsu P1610 and P7230 with  its 10.6&quot; touch screen. Also LG tries to attract game players as well by including a dedicated video card. Nevertheless, it is very interesting model and I sure wish LG sells it in the States, and the price of C1 drops with the introduction of P100. &lt;br /&gt;
If you haven&#039;t seen it, there are comparison shots of P1610 and C1.(see page 3 and 4)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.notegear.com/Content/content_view.asp?spage=3&amp;gotopage=2&amp;TNum=469&amp;kind=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.notegear.com/Content/content_view.asp?spage=3&amp;gotopage=2&amp;TNum=469&amp;kind=2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genghis, the most common complaints about LG C1 are battery life and price. It costs over $2000 in Korea, and certainly will cost more if imported by dynamism or others. I think it is positioned somewhere between Fujitsu P1610 and P7230 with  its 10.6&#8243; touch screen. Also LG tries to attract game players as well by including a dedicated video card. Nevertheless, it is very interesting model and I sure wish LG sells it in the States, and the price of C1 drops with the introduction of P100. <br />
If you haven&#8217;t seen it, there are comparison shots of P1610 and C1.(see page 3 and 4)</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/02/29/fujitsu-p1620-v/#comment-12761</link>
		<dc:creator>James Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;TonyP, what you are describing is typical of anti-glare screens and the P1620 is definitely anti-glare.  I don&#039;t find it washed out or bothersome although that can be a personal thing.  I&#039;m sorry you don&#039;t like it but I have no problems with the screen at all, I find it vivid and bright and appreciate the fact that it doesn&#039;t glare in direct light.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>TonyP, what you are describing is typical of anti-glare screens and the P1620 is definitely anti-glare.  I don&#8217;t find it washed out or bothersome although that can be a personal thing.  I&#8217;m sorry you don&#8217;t like it but I have no problems with the screen at all, I find it vivid and bright and appreciate the fact that it doesn&#8217;t glare in direct light.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/02/29/fujitsu-p1620-v/#comment-12765</link>
		<dc:creator>James Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Genghis, I don&#039;t have any info on the LG, as you pointed out it&#039;s not available over here in the US.  I can tell you that if it&#039;s a touch screen only Tablet then vectoring will almost certainly be a big issue as Fujitsu is the only OEM I&#039;ve seen yet to solve that problem.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Genghis, I don&#8217;t have any info on the LG, as you pointed out it&#8217;s not available over here in the US.  I can tell you that if it&#8217;s a touch screen only Tablet then vectoring will almost certainly be a big issue as Fujitsu is the only OEM I&#8217;ve seen yet to solve that problem.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyP</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;As you know, I got my P1620 the same day you got yours. I REALLY like it, but I&#039;m pretty unhappy with the screen.  I actually own and returned a HP 2710P because I couldn&#039;t stand the matte screen &quot;sparkle&quot; on the model I had (I had the outdoor view one).  But the sparkle on this P1620 is just as bad.  On a white page like this one, it looks grainy and in bright colors it looks washed out by the sparkle.  And if I&#039;m in a moving vehicle it&#039;s like the sparkle is dancing.  &lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m surprised I haven&#039;t heard much mention of this in reviews and forums. Maybe you get used to it, but right now, I&#039;m dying for my Fujitsu T4020.  James, could you speak specifically to that?  Genghis, I would think seriously about the screen if that&#039;s something that&#039;s important to you.  &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>As you know, I got my P1620 the same day you got yours. I REALLY like it, but I&#8217;m pretty unhappy with the screen.  I actually own and returned a HP 2710P because I couldn&#8217;t stand the matte screen &#8220;sparkle&#8221; on the model I had (I had the outdoor view one).  But the sparkle on this P1620 is just as bad.  On a white page like this one, it looks grainy and in bright colors it looks washed out by the sparkle.  And if I&#8217;m in a moving vehicle it&#8217;s like the sparkle is dancing.  <br />
I&#8217;m surprised I haven&#8217;t heard much mention of this in reviews and forums. Maybe you get used to it, but right now, I&#8217;m dying for my Fujitsu T4020.  James, could you speak specifically to that?  Genghis, I would think seriously about the screen if that&#8217;s something that&#8217;s important to you.  </p>
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		<title>By: Genghis Khent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genghis Khent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I hate to bring another tablet into the mix (not really) but I discovered (though you already may know about it) the LG P100, which is a refresh of the LG C1 that I also didn&#039;t know about. I&#039;ve posted a brief (though perhaps not 100% accurate) comparison of the P100 to the Fujitsu 1620 at &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.genghiskhent.com/?p=19.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.genghiskhent.com/?p=19.&lt;/a&gt; James (or anyone), do you have any feedback on the P100 (or C1)? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;These choices among tablets are killing me. Glad I don&#039;t have to go through this with women (if I did my wife would kill me and I couldn&#039;t post anymore). &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I hate to bring another tablet into the mix (not really) but I discovered (though you already may know about it) the LG P100, which is a refresh of the LG C1 that I also didn&#8217;t know about. I&#8217;ve posted a brief (though perhaps not 100% accurate) comparison of the P100 to the Fujitsu 1620 at <a href="http://blogs.genghiskhent.com/?p=19." rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blogs.genghiskhent.com/?p=19" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.genghiskhent.com/?p=19</a>. James (or anyone), do you have any feedback on the P100 (or C1)? </p>
<p>These choices among tablets are killing me. Glad I don&#8217;t have to go through this with women (if I did my wife would kill me and I couldn&#8217;t post anymore). </p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I just bought 2710p, and have been using for about a week. I love this one overall, but there&#039;s a few things that really annoy me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;*lack of middle mouse button (and middle mouse button emulation capability) - two mouse button is fine, but the mouse driver usually gives you middle mouse emulation by pressing both button. I can&#039;t believe it doesn&#039;t have that capability. This to me is very serious problem!&lt;br /&gt;
*volume slider - I thought at first it was cool, but it is not implemented very well. It&#039;s not too accurate, and there&#039;s lack in response time. I much rather have physical buttons.&lt;br /&gt;
*slow hd! - It&#039;s one of those special small size HD that is really slow (4200 rpm i think) It shows when i run multiple applications at the same time...&lt;br /&gt;
*palm rest - I heard some horror story that the metal coated palm rest peel off in several month of use. It hasn&#039;t happened to me yet, but I am very very afraid this may happen one day especially with my sweaty palm.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Other then these issues, this is probably one of the best tablet out there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I just bought 2710p, and have been using for about a week. I love this one overall, but there&#8217;s a few things that really annoy me.</p>
<p>*lack of middle mouse button (and middle mouse button emulation capability) &#8211; two mouse button is fine, but the mouse driver usually gives you middle mouse emulation by pressing both button. I can&#8217;t believe it doesn&#8217;t have that capability. This to me is very serious problem!<br />
*volume slider &#8211; I thought at first it was cool, but it is not implemented very well. It&#8217;s not too accurate, and there&#8217;s lack in response time. I much rather have physical buttons.<br />
*slow hd! &#8211; It&#8217;s one of those special small size HD that is really slow (4200 rpm i think) It shows when i run multiple applications at the same time&#8230;<br />
*palm rest &#8211; I heard some horror story that the metal coated palm rest peel off in several month of use. It hasn&#8217;t happened to me yet, but I am very very afraid this may happen one day especially with my sweaty palm.</p>
<p>Other then these issues, this is probably one of the best tablet out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Genghis Khent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genghis Khent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Thanks James. I suspect you&#039;re right. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Thanks James. I suspect you&#8217;re right. </p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Genghis, I have no inside info about the Motion that some have been hinting about.  That also means I am not under NDA about it and from all I&#039;ve heard I believe it will be slightly ruggedized, a variant of the medical C5 which I have played with, yet will be for a different vertical market.  It will not be for consumers (style nor price) at all.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Genghis, I have no inside info about the Motion that some have been hinting about.  That also means I am not under NDA about it and from all I&#8217;ve heard I believe it will be slightly ruggedized, a variant of the medical C5 which I have played with, yet will be for a different vertical market.  It will not be for consumers (style nor price) at all.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;1.8&quot; PATA.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>1.8&#8243; PATA.</p>
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		<title>By: Rockville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rockville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;James,  couldy you peak at the HD and tell us if its a 1.8&quot; or 2.5&quot; drive along with the interface type PATA, SATA etc...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks,&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>James,  couldy you peak at the HD and tell us if its a 1.8&#8243; or 2.5&#8243; drive along with the interface type PATA, SATA etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks,
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