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		<title>By: Genghis Khent</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/11/does-mobile-bro/#comment-12341</link>
		<dc:creator>Genghis Khent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;From the center of Downtown L.A, where my HTC Touch Cruise reports HSPDA, my LS800 accessed speedtest.net via Internet Sharing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With a Bluetooth connection, the download ranged widely depending on the server, 876, 744 and 508. With USB, download more consistent, 1123, 1130, 1156. Upload pretty consistent on both connections, between 200-300.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not sure a PC or Express Card would perform better, but I have none to test. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>From the center of Downtown L.A, where my HTC Touch Cruise reports HSPDA, my LS800 accessed speedtest.net via Internet Sharing.</p>
<p>With a Bluetooth connection, the download ranged widely depending on the server, 876, 744 and 508. With USB, download more consistent, 1123, 1130, 1156. Upload pretty consistent on both connections, between 200-300.</p>
<p>Not sure a PC or Express Card would perform better, but I have none to test. </p>
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		<title>By: AllanCJ</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/11/does-mobile-bro/#comment-12343</link>
		<dc:creator>AllanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;In principle, other things being equal (which they often aren&#039;t), you can always get a higher data rate in a small cell than in a big cell. Hence no sensible person would use mobile broadband at home if they also had fixed-line broadband and wifi (leaving aside the question of cost). Similarly, the data rate at a coffee shop can theoretically be significantly higher than that from mobile broadband. In practice I suppose it might be artificially restricted for some reason.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Preferring mobile broadband over wifi hotspots (as I do too) is another way of saying that, out in the open, convenience counts for more than data rate. To put it another way, when I&#039;m out and about, I probably wouldn&#039;t try to do anything much more demanding than surfing  or email and blog reading. Another question, then, is whether hotspots can re-invent themselves as places where you can satisfy a need for a significantly higher data rate than you&#039;re likely to get from mobile broadband.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>In principle, other things being equal (which they often aren&#8217;t), you can always get a higher data rate in a small cell than in a big cell. Hence no sensible person would use mobile broadband at home if they also had fixed-line broadband and wifi (leaving aside the question of cost). Similarly, the data rate at a coffee shop can theoretically be significantly higher than that from mobile broadband. In practice I suppose it might be artificially restricted for some reason.</p>
<p>Preferring mobile broadband over wifi hotspots (as I do too) is another way of saying that, out in the open, convenience counts for more than data rate. To put it another way, when I&#8217;m out and about, I probably wouldn&#8217;t try to do anything much more demanding than surfing  or email and blog reading. Another question, then, is whether hotspots can re-invent themselves as places where you can satisfy a need for a significantly higher data rate than you&#8217;re likely to get from mobile broadband.</p>
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		<title>By: Genghis Khent</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/11/does-mobile-bro/#comment-12344</link>
		<dc:creator>Genghis Khent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;JK, thanks for the quick response. How would you compare speed by using Internet Sharing via the Advantage (which I also own but gave to my wife when I got the Touch Cruise) vs a PC Card or Express Card? Leave aside the carrier&#039;s response on tethering; I&#039;m just looking for a performance comparison. If they&#039;re about the same, why buy a card? Thanks for any information you can provide.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>JK, thanks for the quick response. How would you compare speed by using Internet Sharing via the Advantage (which I also own but gave to my wife when I got the Touch Cruise) vs a PC Card or Express Card? Leave aside the carrier&#8217;s response on tethering; I&#8217;m just looking for a performance comparison. If they&#8217;re about the same, why buy a card? Thanks for any information you can provide.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/11/does-mobile-bro/#comment-12345</link>
		<dc:creator>James Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Genghis, I also use AT&amp;T HSDPA in the HTC Advantage.  I signed up for it as I test a lot of GSM phones and needed a SIM-based solution to use in those phones.  It&#039;s sitting mostly in the Advantage these days and I can use it as a backup connectivity via WM Internet Sharing if the EVDO has problems.  It is a business expense for me which is why I can have two different data plans.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genghis, I also use AT&#038;T HSDPA in the HTC Advantage.  I signed up for it as I test a lot of GSM phones and needed a SIM-based solution to use in those phones.  It&#8217;s sitting mostly in the Advantage these days and I can use it as a backup connectivity via WM Internet Sharing if the EVDO has problems.  It is a business expense for me which is why I can have two different data plans.</p>
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		<title>By: ArchiMark</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/11/does-mobile-bro/#comment-12346</link>
		<dc:creator>ArchiMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;While I&#039;d love to have a mobile broadband connection, it&#039;s hard for me to really justify one more monthly expense since it&#039;s not a business expense for me.... &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, until prices come down on this I&#039;ll probably tough it out without mobile broadband...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Haven&#039;t checked recently, but doesn&#039;t this run at least $50/month???&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mark&lt;br /&gt;
Silicone Valley Digerati&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>While I&#8217;d love to have a mobile broadband connection, it&#8217;s hard for me to really justify one more monthly expense since it&#8217;s not a business expense for me&#8230;. </p>
<p>So, until prices come down on this I&#8217;ll probably tough it out without mobile broadband&#8230;</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t checked recently, but doesn&#8217;t this run at least $50/month???</p>
<p>Mark<br />
Silicone Valley Digerati</p>
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		<title>By: Genghis Khent</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/11/does-mobile-bro/#comment-12347</link>
		<dc:creator>Genghis Khent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;JK, I knew from other posts you had EV-DO. I did not know you also had HSPDA. Which provider and card do you use for HSPDA? How do you decide whether to use EV-DO or HSPDA? I&#039;m asking because I&#039;m trying to decide between EV-DO and HSPDA (as Kevin knows because I was bugging him in another post). Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>JK, I knew from other posts you had EV-DO. I did not know you also had HSPDA. Which provider and card do you use for HSPDA? How do you decide whether to use EV-DO or HSPDA? I&#8217;m asking because I&#8217;m trying to decide between EV-DO and HSPDA (as Kevin knows because I was bugging him in another post). Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: turn_self_off</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/11/does-mobile-bro/#comment-12348</link>
		<dc:creator>turn_self_off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;the thing about wlan is that unless its a pre-register and login kind of access, you dont know who or whats running that connection.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;hell, i suspect one could even set up one in a high traffic corp area that mimics the local water hole and presto, corp secrets by the gigabyte...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>the thing about wlan is that unless its a pre-register and login kind of access, you dont know who or whats running that connection.</p>
<p>hell, i suspect one could even set up one in a high traffic corp area that mimics the local water hole and presto, corp secrets by the gigabyte&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/11/does-mobile-bro/#comment-12349</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Only picocell infrastructure such as WLAN and probably WiMax can handle bandwidth demands of many users. If data transfer via mobile broadband becomes more popular the bandwidth you achieve will likely decrease dramatically.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Only picocell infrastructure such as WLAN and probably WiMax can handle bandwidth demands of many users. If data transfer via mobile broadband becomes more popular the bandwidth you achieve will likely decrease dramatically.</p>
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		<title>By: wileyj</title>
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		<dc:creator>wileyj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;IMHO - Europe = more reasonable broadband rates&lt;br /&gt;
US of A = monopolistic pricing of mobile phone/broadband pricing&lt;br /&gt;
..wiley&lt;br /&gt;
NW Houston&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>IMHO &#8211; Europe = more reasonable broadband rates<br />
US of A = monopolistic pricing of mobile phone/broadband pricing<br />
..wiley<br />
NW Houston</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Wiering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Wiering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t see WiFi being replaced by EV-DO or HSDPA. the reason is that the end user doesn&#039;t control the cellular data connection; WiFi is. &lt;br /&gt;
I can see where WiMaxx would take off, but I don&#039;t think any service will completely replace wifi. I still don&#039;t have a cell phone. I use wifi on my pda. I can skype whenever I need to. theres  always wifi.  People like free stuff. wifi is/ or close to free. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I can&#8217;t see WiFi being replaced by EV-DO or HSDPA. the reason is that the end user doesn&#8217;t control the cellular data connection; WiFi is. <br />
I can see where WiMaxx would take off, but I don&#8217;t think any service will completely replace wifi. I still don&#8217;t have a cell phone. I use wifi on my pda. I can skype whenever I need to. theres  always wifi.  People like free stuff. wifi is/ or close to free. </p>
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