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	<title>Comments on: JK- First impressions of the Celio Redfly</title>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/19/jk-first-impre/#comment-11807</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Ah, the beta worked for me in the end. My actual issue was with active sync. It does seem to run a bit slow though.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Ah, the beta worked for me in the end. My actual issue was with active sync. It does seem to run a bit slow though.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/19/jk-first-impre/#comment-11809</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dale, JK,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve picked up a Redfly but I can&#039;t get the software to install on my Ameo. Any hints on how to get it to install?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Dale, JK,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve picked up a Redfly but I can&#8217;t get the software to install on my Ameo. Any hints on how to get it to install?</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Lane</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/19/jk-first-impre/#comment-11812</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;FYI - the warped graphics issue I was having was corrected by the firmware update for the Redfly released on 13th Aug. Interesting that it wasn&#039;t the driver installed on the HTC Advantage that was the problem, but the firmware on the Redfly itself. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>FYI &#8211; the warped graphics issue I was having was corrected by the firmware update for the Redfly released on 13th Aug. Interesting that it wasn&#8217;t the driver installed on the HTC Advantage that was the problem, but the firmware on the Redfly itself. </p>
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		<title>By: Dale Lane</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/19/jk-first-impre/#comment-11814</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks very much for replying. It&#039;s very strange... I&#039;m using the Tilt drivers too, and still having problems. I wonder if T-Mobile do anything different to it as part of the &#039;Ameo&#039; branding.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t use RealVGA (or anything else to alter the resolution or display), and images still appear like this:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii311/dale_lane/photo139.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii311/dale_lane/photo139.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Still sort of recognisable, but kind of warped. The same happens for images in other apps - if you view a webpage in PIE or Opera Mobile, the text is all fine and readable, but images warp and distort like that. Shame :-(&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Thanks very much for replying. It&#8217;s very strange&#8230; I&#8217;m using the Tilt drivers too, and still having problems. I wonder if T-Mobile do anything different to it as part of the &#8216;Ameo&#8217; branding.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t use RealVGA (or anything else to alter the resolution or display), and images still appear like this:<br />
<a href="http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii311/dale_lane/photo139.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii311/dale_lane/photo139.jpg</a></p>
<p>Still sort of recognisable, but kind of warped. The same happens for images in other apps &#8211; if you view a webpage in PIE or Opera Mobile, the text is all fine and readable, but images warp and distort like that. Shame <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/19/jk-first-impre/#comment-11819</link>
		<dc:creator>James Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Dale, I used the HTC Tilt driver when I tested the Redfly and it worked OK.  If you&#039;re running RealVGA it might create the issues you indicate.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Dale, I used the HTC Tilt driver when I tested the Redfly and it worked OK.  If you&#8217;re running RealVGA it might create the issues you indicate.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Lane</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/19/jk-first-impre/#comment-11822</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I got the Celio Redfly to go with a T-Mobile Ameo (aka HTC Advantage) running WM6, and don&#039;t seem to be having quite the experience you did. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There seem to be video driver issues resulting in images and icons appearing warped and distorted. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Would you mind sharing which video driver you use, please?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I got the Celio Redfly to go with a T-Mobile Ameo (aka HTC Advantage) running WM6, and don&#8217;t seem to be having quite the experience you did. </p>
<p>There seem to be video driver issues resulting in images and icons appearing warped and distorted. </p>
<p>Would you mind sharing which video driver you use, please?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Goodwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Goodwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Looking around the Internet today I see lots of good reviews...I wonder how fast we will see a mass market version by ASUS....for $249?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Looking around the Internet today I see lots of good reviews&#8230;I wonder how fast we will see a mass market version by ASUS&#8230;.for $249?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Goodwin</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/19/jk-first-impre/#comment-11828</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Goodwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am a potential owner of this device and I think many here are underrating the advantages...or perhaps I value the advantages more than most.    I like the idea of tethering without paying more to my cell phone company which nobody mentions here, 8 hours of battery life is awesome and you don&#039;t get that with an EEE or HP Mini-note, and instant ON is VERY valuable to me.....I can&#039;t stand carrying a notebook on a trip and having to wait for it to boot up in that 10 minutes before I board a plane (for years my HP instant on Jornada 680 was my perfect travel device).  If I can plug this thing into my cell phone and be working in seconds that brings value over the usual UMPC solutions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I already carry my Samsung 760 smartphone everyday anyway (one of the approved phones for Redfly).  For short trips I usually add an IGo bluetooth keyboard so I can touch type emails.  I have an internet business and I do a lot of emails on the run...and I log into my server from my smartphone to run orders, etc.  I was getting all excited to buy a HP MINI NOTE for some longer trips I have coming but the battery life of that unit is NOT acceptable and most of the time it would just sit around waiting on my next road trip.  This Redfly device would be perfect for what I need to do on the run and the instant on, long battery life, and free tethering, make it a winner.  I agree the price is high but I may still go this way if the promise of the 8 hour battery atom powered UMPC does not materialize real soon...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I am a potential owner of this device and I think many here are underrating the advantages&#8230;or perhaps I value the advantages more than most.    I like the idea of tethering without paying more to my cell phone company which nobody mentions here, 8 hours of battery life is awesome and you don&#8217;t get that with an EEE or HP Mini-note, and instant ON is VERY valuable to me&#8230;..I can&#8217;t stand carrying a notebook on a trip and having to wait for it to boot up in that 10 minutes before I board a plane (for years my HP instant on Jornada 680 was my perfect travel device).  If I can plug this thing into my cell phone and be working in seconds that brings value over the usual UMPC solutions.</p>
<p>I already carry my Samsung 760 smartphone everyday anyway (one of the approved phones for Redfly).  For short trips I usually add an IGo bluetooth keyboard so I can touch type emails.  I have an internet business and I do a lot of emails on the run&#8230;and I log into my server from my smartphone to run orders, etc.  I was getting all excited to buy a HP MINI NOTE for some longer trips I have coming but the battery life of that unit is NOT acceptable and most of the time it would just sit around waiting on my next road trip.  This Redfly device would be perfect for what I need to do on the run and the instant on, long battery life, and free tethering, make it a winner.  I agree the price is high but I may still go this way if the promise of the 8 hour battery atom powered UMPC does not materialize real soon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/19/jk-first-impre/#comment-11834</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I agree with Demetri, this thing sounds pretty cool, but NEEDS to be a convertible tablet.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I agree with Demetri, this thing sounds pretty cool, but NEEDS to be a convertible tablet.</p>
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		<title>By: Demetri</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/19/jk-first-impre/#comment-11837</link>
		<dc:creator>Demetri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;The  only way I could justify the price on this device would be if it had a convertable form factor and a touch screen. That would bring real value with practical features. I hope you are listening Celio.  I will be eagerly awaiting Redfly 2.0 with my wishlist above. Surely I can&#039;t be alone in this feature request?  Anyone else?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PS - Keep up the good work fellas. I appreciate your efforts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>The  only way I could justify the price on this device would be if it had a convertable form factor and a touch screen. That would bring real value with practical features. I hope you are listening Celio.  I will be eagerly awaiting Redfly 2.0 with my wishlist above. Surely I can&#8217;t be alone in this feature request?  Anyone else?</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Keep up the good work fellas. I appreciate your efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/19/jk-first-impre/#comment-11840</link>
		<dc:creator>James Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;That said note that I successfully installed it and ran it with the HTC Advantage.  :)&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>That said note that I successfully installed it and ran it with the HTC Advantage.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James A. Morman</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/19/jk-first-impre/#comment-11843</link>
		<dc:creator>James A. Morman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Right now it is only available for the i 760, Mogul, 6800, Tilt,and the 700 WX&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Right now it is only available for the i 760, Mogul, 6800, Tilt,and the 700 WX</p>
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		<title>By: Ozone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ozone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Great thread! Would this device work with any Windows Mobile device, or does it have to be a smartphone? I love the idea of instant on, portability, and having the option of taking along (or not) a larger screen and keyboard. Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Great thread! Would this device work with any Windows Mobile device, or does it have to be a smartphone? I love the idea of instant on, portability, and having the option of taking along (or not) a larger screen and keyboard. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: FlashGal</title>
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		<dc:creator>FlashGal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I just love this idea!  There are times when my poor old eyes just can&#039;t take the strain of staring at a tiny smartphone display another minute.  And now that Microsoft will be adding both Adobe Flash Lite and Reader LE to Windows Mobile it will make browsing the Internet even more enjoyable -- I am so ready for that!  And having the option of using a bigger screen will make it even better.&lt;br /&gt;
I totally agree with everyone about the price, but as we all know, prices almost always come down in time.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I just love this idea!  There are times when my poor old eyes just can&#8217;t take the strain of staring at a tiny smartphone display another minute.  And now that Microsoft will be adding both Adobe Flash Lite and Reader LE to Windows Mobile it will make browsing the Internet even more enjoyable &#8212; I am so ready for that!  And having the option of using a bigger screen will make it even better.<br />
I totally agree with everyone about the price, but as we all know, prices almost always come down in time.</p>
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		<title>By: follick</title>
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		<dc:creator>follick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is a cell phone accessory. At $100 it would be a great buy. At $200 I could see thinking about it. At $300? No.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At $500 it would only sell to people for whom price is not an issue, but people like that will probably get some fancy ultraportable laptop.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This seems like an even better implementation than the Foleo, but like the Foleo, the price point is too high for the market to bear.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The only conceivable hope that I can see for this device is if they can convince some corporate IT departments that the security and total cost of ownership for a WM phone+Redfly would be better than the alternatives for mobile workers. I can kind of see that. No data is stored on the Redfly itself. A WM6 phone can be wiped remotely. This is clearly more secure than a laptop based solution. It would also seem to be easier to swap out, in case of some  problem, and be back up and running quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>This is a cell phone accessory. At $100 it would be a great buy. At $200 I could see thinking about it. At $300? No.</p>
<p>At $500 it would only sell to people for whom price is not an issue, but people like that will probably get some fancy ultraportable laptop.</p>
<p>This seems like an even better implementation than the Foleo, but like the Foleo, the price point is too high for the market to bear.</p>
<p>The only conceivable hope that I can see for this device is if they can convince some corporate IT departments that the security and total cost of ownership for a WM phone+Redfly would be better than the alternatives for mobile workers. I can kind of see that. No data is stored on the Redfly itself. A WM6 phone can be wiped remotely. This is clearly more secure than a laptop based solution. It would also seem to be easier to swap out, in case of some  problem, and be back up and running quickly.
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		<title>By: James A. Morman</title>
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		<dc:creator>James A. Morman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Another thing to think about is that the time and money spent on a redfly versus a laptop for maintenance and upkeep is zero.  No antivirus, defragging, rebooting, software etc. Its instant-on everytime, it connects to the wm device 50 times faster than it takes for me to turn on my laptop and tether it to my ppc.  Yes it totally depends on the ppc but if your redfly gets lost or stolen vs. your laptop you have zero risk of information theft.  Yes it does have some limitations, I will admit, but don&#039;t be too quick to dismiss it yet.  &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Another thing to think about is that the time and money spent on a redfly versus a laptop for maintenance and upkeep is zero.  No antivirus, defragging, rebooting, software etc. Its instant-on everytime, it connects to the wm device 50 times faster than it takes for me to turn on my laptop and tether it to my ppc.  Yes it totally depends on the ppc but if your redfly gets lost or stolen vs. your laptop you have zero risk of information theft.  Yes it does have some limitations, I will admit, but don&#8217;t be too quick to dismiss it yet.  </p>
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