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		<title>By: Clay</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/21/samsung-q1-ul-3/#comment-11675</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Hi, I have a Q1B and can&#039;t view Netflix watch instantly movies.  I was told my netflix that this is due to the graphics driver.  I have updated the driver but no luck.  Is anyone else having this issue?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Hi, I have a Q1B and can&#8217;t view Netflix watch instantly movies.  I was told my netflix that this is due to the graphics driver.  I have updated the driver but no luck.  Is anyone else having this issue?</p>
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		<title>By: Tarin</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/21/samsung-q1-ul-3/#comment-11677</link>
		<dc:creator>Tarin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;your numbers are way off Chippy, all parts being equal theres a 2.5w difference alone in the CPU at different states. Kev&#039;s numbers have even reflected a 2w difference the majority of the time (plus he&#039;s only using XP).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;calling things negligible &amp; not practical just because thats your impression doesnt dispute mathematical importance &amp; is pretty ridiculous especially considering the extremely low wattage usage by these devices percentage wise.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your numbers are way off Chippy, all parts being equal theres a 2.5w difference alone in the CPU at different states. Kev&#8217;s numbers have even reflected a 2w difference the majority of the time (plus he&#8217;s only using XP).</p>
<p>calling things negligible &#038; not practical just because thats your impression doesnt dispute mathematical importance &#038; is pretty ridiculous especially considering the extremely low wattage usage by these devices percentage wise.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve 'Chippy' Paine</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/21/samsung-q1-ul-3/#comment-11680</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve 'Chippy' Paine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Guideline power drain for Q1U components:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Screen + backlighting: Max 1.5W&lt;br /&gt;
Wifi: Max 1W, idles much lower.&lt;br /&gt;
Bluetooth: negligable&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;USB components are difficult to asses in terms of drain. Many of them prevent the CPU going into power-saving states. The effect can be quite dramatic. For example on my Q1 U I can use Wifi and browse with an average 8W drain. Turning off the Wifi and turning on the 3G modem results in a minimum 25% *increase* in drain when normaly, it should be a decrease.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Worst case average on the Q1 Ultra (A110) is about 11W drain (5 hours on the extended battery)&lt;br /&gt;
On the Q1 Ultra Premium I expect that to be about 12W based on Kevins result there. Not much practical difference which is really nice to see. If you can afford it, the Premium is obviously the one to buy.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Guideline power drain for Q1U components:</p>
<p>Screen + backlighting: Max 1.5W<br />
Wifi: Max 1W, idles much lower.<br />
Bluetooth: negligable</p>
<p>USB components are difficult to asses in terms of drain. Many of them prevent the CPU going into power-saving states. The effect can be quite dramatic. For example on my Q1 U I can use Wifi and browse with an average 8W drain. Turning off the Wifi and turning on the 3G modem results in a minimum 25% *increase* in drain when normaly, it should be a decrease.</p>
<p>Worst case average on the Q1 Ultra (A110) is about 11W drain (5 hours on the extended battery)<br />
On the Q1 Ultra Premium I expect that to be about 12W based on Kevins result there. Not much practical difference which is really nice to see. If you can afford it, the Premium is obviously the one to buy.</p>
<p>Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: iNsAnEcLoWn</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/21/samsung-q1-ul-3/#comment-11683</link>
		<dc:creator>iNsAnEcLoWn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;So in lamens terms how many hours of surfing can I expect with the USB WWAN modem? &lt;br /&gt;
 thanks for your help, I just ordered my Q1 ultra premium and plan on using it as a GPS Device (My wwan card has GPS built in), Netflix watch it now anywhere device, a work device (stock trading on the go)  and finally a music device (transmitted through my car stereo of course).&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>So in lamens terms how many hours of surfing can I expect with the USB WWAN modem? <br />
 thanks for your help, I just ordered my Q1 ultra premium and plan on using it as a GPS Device (My wwan card has GPS built in), Netflix watch it now anywhere device, a work device (stock trading on the go)  and finally a music device (transmitted through my car stereo of course).</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/21/samsung-q1-ul-3/#comment-11686</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m running the Battery Eater test right now, so the device is tied up for the next several hours. I&#039;ll have to see if I can find a way to measure the draw per component, but it&#039;s always a good strategy to shut off the wireless card when not in use and/or setting the display to dim when not in use for X number of minutes. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As far as WWAN modem, I can check it, but I&#039;m not sure I need to. The USB 727 EV-DO modem I use has the following power requirements: 5V, 500 mAh when transmitting, 115 mAh when idle. Using the Watts = Amps x Volts equation this should mean 2.5 Watts draw when transmitting and just over a half-watt when idle. Does that make sense? I&#039;m relying someone smarter than me to correct the approach, so keep me honest. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m running the Battery Eater test right now, so the device is tied up for the next several hours. I&#8217;ll have to see if I can find a way to measure the draw per component, but it&#8217;s always a good strategy to shut off the wireless card when not in use and/or setting the display to dim when not in use for X number of minutes. </p>
<p>As far as WWAN modem, I can check it, but I&#8217;m not sure I need to. The USB 727 EV-DO modem I use has the following power requirements: 5V, 500 mAh when transmitting, 115 mAh when idle. Using the Watts = Amps x Volts equation this should mean 2.5 Watts draw when transmitting and just over a half-watt when idle. Does that make sense? I&#8217;m relying someone smarter than me to correct the approach, so keep me honest. </p>
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		<title>By: iNsAnEcLoWn</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/21/samsung-q1-ul-3/#comment-11690</link>
		<dc:creator>iNsAnEcLoWn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;What about power consumption with wifi/bluetooth off and the USB WWAN modem plugged in and on?  Pretty please?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>What about power consumption with wifi/bluetooth off and the USB WWAN modem plugged in and on?  Pretty please?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve 'Chippy' Paine</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/21/samsung-q1-ul-3/#comment-11692</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve 'Chippy' Paine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Excelent. Results. Samsung seem to have done a great engineering job.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Excelent. Results. Samsung seem to have done a great engineering job.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: nomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Kevin: Is it possible to measure the power draw of the wireless card and display? I recently used my tablet to ink notes at a conference. By turning WLAN off and toggling the screen on and off as required, battery consumption dropped dramatically.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Kevin: Is it possible to measure the power draw of the wireless card and display? I recently used my tablet to ink notes at a conference. By turning WLAN off and toggling the screen on and off as required, battery consumption dropped dramatically.</p>
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