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		<title>By: Donovan Long</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/24/virgin-america/#comment-11519</link>
		<dc:creator>Donovan Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;That&#039;s an LE1600 in the photo, of course.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>That&#8217;s an LE1600 in the photo, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/24/virgin-america/#comment-11522</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Haha. Although I will say that there is a possibility that some of these devices may interfere with the instruments, the possibility is rather small.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know of a flight where 300+ people in an airplane all played some game in groups on Nintendo DS over wifi. That&#039;s 300+ wifi connections.&lt;br /&gt;
Plane landed safely ... no intereference.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Haha. Although I will say that there is a possibility that some of these devices may interfere with the instruments, the possibility is rather small.</p>
<p>I know of a flight where 300+ people in an airplane all played some game in groups on Nintendo DS over wifi. That&#8217;s 300+ wifi connections.<br />
Plane landed safely &#8230; no intereference.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/24/virgin-america/#comment-11525</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 06:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Just as a note: British Airways allows passengers to use Bluetooth devices during flight.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Just as a note: British Airways allows passengers to use Bluetooth devices during flight.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/24/virgin-america/#comment-11529</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;One of the main reasons that mobile phones are not allowed on planes is because if they were, you&#039;d have 300 people yapping away for the entire flight, and everyone would murder one another. It&#039;s bad enough having to listen to other peoples useless banter on buses and trains, but on a flight, it would be just cruel.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>One of the main reasons that mobile phones are not allowed on planes is because if they were, you&#8217;d have 300 people yapping away for the entire flight, and everyone would murder one another. It&#8217;s bad enough having to listen to other peoples useless banter on buses and trains, but on a flight, it would be just cruel.</p>
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		<title>By: TateJ</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/24/virgin-america/#comment-11534</link>
		<dc:creator>TateJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;As a former pilot, I can attest that wireless devices can interfere with aircraft systems.  Its happened to me twice while in flight.  One of those times was with a wifi device.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;First timne caused my VOR ( Navigation Receiver) to indicate I was off course.  Since the autopilot was coupled to the VOR receiver, the plan started a nice coordinated turn to &quot;correct&quot; my course.  When the passenger&#039;s laptop was powered down,  all was well.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The other time was a cell phone turned on while I was in final approach to the airport.  Caused the ILS ( another navigation receiver used when landing in bad weather) to indicate I was off course.  Not cool when trying to land in instrument conditions.  Again, use of the off button cured all worries.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I will qualify the above events.  I was not flying an airliner.  I was flying larger charter aircraft. (King Air 200&#039;s.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve heard stories from friends who do fly Airliners about cell phones, computers and even a cheap dvd player that messed with aircraft electronics.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If the Aircrew says turn it off, please turn it off.  I&#039;m sure these tablets the flight attendants use for Virgin Atlantic have been throughly tested in the make and model of airplane and shown not to interfere with aircraft systems.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>As a former pilot, I can attest that wireless devices can interfere with aircraft systems.  Its happened to me twice while in flight.  One of those times was with a wifi device.</p>
<p>First timne caused my VOR ( Navigation Receiver) to indicate I was off course.  Since the autopilot was coupled to the VOR receiver, the plan started a nice coordinated turn to &#8220;correct&#8221; my course.  When the passenger&#8217;s laptop was powered down,  all was well.</p>
<p>The other time was a cell phone turned on while I was in final approach to the airport.  Caused the ILS ( another navigation receiver used when landing in bad weather) to indicate I was off course.  Not cool when trying to land in instrument conditions.  Again, use of the off button cured all worries.</p>
<p>I will qualify the above events.  I was not flying an airliner.  I was flying larger charter aircraft. (King Air 200&#8217;s.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard stories from friends who do fly Airliners about cell phones, computers and even a cheap dvd player that messed with aircraft electronics.</p>
<p>If the Aircrew says turn it off, please turn it off.  I&#8217;m sure these tablets the flight attendants use for Virgin Atlantic have been throughly tested in the make and model of airplane and shown not to interfere with aircraft systems.  </p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/24/virgin-america/#comment-11536</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;im guessing its the same here as with mobile phones in hospitals. better safe then sorry...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;as in, the staff and so on can use it, as their stuff have been tested. but who knows what happens when some random device is dragged within range?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;but then there is also the mythbusters episode when they try to test out the stuff, and get to talk to a technician. from what i recall there had been episodes where the strobes on the outside of the aircraft had interfered with instruments inside...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;so i suspect its more a case of covering their asses in face of some insurance claim then anything else...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>im guessing its the same here as with mobile phones in hospitals. better safe then sorry&#8230;</p>
<p>as in, the staff and so on can use it, as their stuff have been tested. but who knows what happens when some random device is dragged within range?</p>
<p>but then there is also the mythbusters episode when they try to test out the stuff, and get to talk to a technician. from what i recall there had been episodes where the strobes on the outside of the aircraft had interfered with instruments inside&#8230;</p>
<p>so i suspect its more a case of covering their asses in face of some insurance claim then anything else&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tnkgrl</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/24/virgin-america/#comment-11538</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;This was covered by Engadget when they reviewed the Virgin America&#039;s Airbus A320 as a gadget...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apparently, the orders are either sent from the tablet to the on-board server wirelessly (or when the tablet is docked - can&#039;t remember) and transactions are then processed after landing!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, Virgin America will be implementing WiFi in most (if not all) of its fleet shortly.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/10/mega-hands-on-virgin-americas-airbus-a320-with-red-in-flight-e/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/10/mega-hands-on-virgin-americas-airbus-a320-with-red-in-flight-e/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/10/hands-on-with-virgin-americas-red-in-flight-entertainment-syste/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/10/hands-on-with-virgin-americas-red-in-flight-entertainment-syste/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/13/aircell-set-to-hook-up-virgin-america-with-in-flight-broadband/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/13/aircell-set-to-hook-up-virgin-america-with-in-flight-broadband/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>This was covered by Engadget when they reviewed the Virgin America&#8217;s Airbus A320 as a gadget&#8230;</p>
<p>Apparently, the orders are either sent from the tablet to the on-board server wirelessly (or when the tablet is docked &#8211; can&#8217;t remember) and transactions are then processed after landing!</p>
<p>Also, Virgin America will be implementing WiFi in most (if not all) of its fleet shortly.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/10/mega-hands-on-virgin-americas-airbus-a320-with-red-in-flight-e/" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/10/mega-hands-on-virgin-americas-airbus-a320-with-red-in-flight-e/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/10/hands-on-with-virgin-americas-red-in-flight-entertainment-syste/" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/10/hands-on-with-virgin-americas-red-in-flight-entertainment-syste/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/13/aircell-set-to-hook-up-virgin-america-with-in-flight-broadband/" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/13/aircell-set-to-hook-up-virgin-america-with-in-flight-broadband/</a>
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		<title>By: Ben2k</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;The new 787 will have Wifi for crew use when it is delivered. It was supposed to have the option for passenger Wifi, but with the demise of Boeing&#039;s Connexion Internet service, that became moot.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>The new 787 will have Wifi for crew use when it is delivered. It was supposed to have the option for passenger Wifi, but with the demise of Boeing&#8217;s Connexion Internet service, that became moot.</p>
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		<title>By: Kilrah</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/03/24/virgin-america/#comment-11542</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;For the record, WiFi is low enough power to be used on airplanes. Lufthansa even carried free wireless internet on some of its transatlantic flights for a few months last year before dropping the idea. Pretty funny to be chatting with someone when you know he&#039;s at 35000ft above the amiddle of the atlantic and moving at 900km/h at that moment. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>For the record, WiFi is low enough power to be used on airplanes. Lufthansa even carried free wireless internet on some of its transatlantic flights for a few months last year before dropping the idea. Pretty funny to be chatting with someone when you know he&#8217;s at 35000ft above the amiddle of the atlantic and moving at 900km/h at that moment. </p>
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		<title>By: Telin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Telin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;that was her pleasant reaction when she noticed i had ordered her for the next 20minutes in the airplane bathroom, wah haha&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>that was her pleasant reaction when she noticed i had ordered her for the next 20minutes in the airplane bathroom, wah haha</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;This is pretty cool. Tablet computers sure are making their way up the food chain!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>This is pretty cool. Tablet computers sure are making their way up the food chain!</p>
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