More HP UMPC info leaks- world waits
Engadget has gotten their hot little hands on what looks like a legitimate spec sheet for that hotly awaited HP 2133 UMPC and it’s shaping up as expected and very nicely. Four different models are revealed priced from $549 with SUSE Linux to $849 with the top hardware configuration. For those living under a rock the 2133 is the new sub-notebook that HP will be releasing soon, April 7th according to engadget, that sports an 8.9-inch screen and priced to "sell like hotcakes". All four models will be sporting a Via C-7 processor according to this new information and either 1 GB or 2 GB of memory depending on model. The Via processor is the 1.2 GHz variety, no screamer for sure but designed to keep the cost down so HP can pitch the 2133 against other sub-notebooks like the EEE PC. The new spec sheet shows choices of Vista Home, Vista Business along with the afore-mentioned Linux options. Hard drives of 120 GB (5,400 & 7,200 rpm) and 160 GB (5,400 rpm) are offered along with the usual radio options of WiFi and Bluetooth. There are two battery options, 3 and 6 cell. I hope to get my hands on one of these babies very, very soon.
Yes the price is nice but take a close look at the size and weight — this is not a UMPC!!
Too large — too heavy!
My Sony TZ is closer to a UMPC than this (albeit its price is way the other end of the spectrum I know).
I’m going to side with Bruce on this one, assuming the spec sheet is legit. Over five pounds? Ugh.
That weight is obviously the shipping weight as it’s listed as the same for the 3 and 6 cell battery. I’d be surprised if this weighed much more than 2 lbs. As for size, we’ve proven that an 8.9inch screen is the smallest you can go and provide a touch-typable keyboard so it’s still a UMPC in my book.
That’s true… same with the dimensions, now that I look at them. Still, I was hoping we’d see the VIA Isaiah CPU in there as it should be available in the next month or two. Price is higher than I would have thought as well. Either way: worth a look!
I was all for this until I saw the size and weight, too. It would be a great machine for my European Working Vacation in June.
Here’s hoping those are shipping numbers, because putting 8.9″ screen in a 13″ case is just wrong. Hoping someone will come up with machine sizes soon.
If that picture is accurate the device is smaller than the EEE PC I believe, or close to it. It will not weigh that much I don’t believe as we know what devices that size can weigh and this thing looks thin.
The posted weight, and size, as James pointed out is for the whole box with manuals, packing, PSU, etc..
I scaled up one of the images off engadget using the 95% scale keyboard they claim, and the device is larger than an EEEPC.
The main issues I have with the device is the price – it’s getting a little pricy – and the CPU choice. I don’t know how well the C7 is going to perform with Vista. If they’d used the pin compatible Isiah (which might not be quite ready for shipping) the performance would probably be OK.
I think I’ll wait to see how this thing performs – and what other small laptops come out in the next few months – before buying anything.
@JK
How do you figure?
If that picture is is accurate, that machine will be larger than the Eee.
The 2133 has a larger screen, yet, maintains the large bezel around the LCD. It also has a keyboard that is, supposedly, 95% of a full sized keyboard.
I don’t get how you can look at that picture and conclude that the device will be smaller than the Eee Pc.
Nate, you’re right. I was actually thinking of its size in comparison with the P1620 which also has a 8.9″ screen. That device is about the same size as the EEE PC but has a smaller bezel around the screen so the HP would be slightly larger than the EEE PC. That also means the keyboard is a tad bigger which is nice for typing. As for how well the Via runs Vista, a number of devices use them and with enough memory users claim acceptable performance.
The spec sheet describes the 2133 as a “Mini-Note PC.” Assuming the listed dimensions describe the shipping container, its footprint appears to be about 7″ x 11″ — a little narrower and about as long as the Sony TZ.
Success will likely be determined by the overall user experience and not solely by the technical specs. The individual components may be good enough for HP to create a balanced system. On the other hand, the 2133 might also be a collection of unfulfilling compromises. I look forward to the first reviews.
nomo, stay tuned.
Vista doesn’t worry me so much.
From the spec sheet, the low end models will be running Vista Home Basic. So, no Aero.
Most of the stuff that makes Vista a hog, won’t even be there.
I can’t wait to get one of these. With that hard drive size, a dual boot with Ubuntu will be cake.
I’ll be taking Vista off and putting XP on it for sure though.
if you have a legal copy of XP how hard would it be to put it on the linux version?? and to add more ram???
Weighing over 5 lbs, it must be a special stone edition.
Like others, I’m most concerned about CPU. I wish HP releases a touchscreen model with a swivel screen.
FIVE POINT TWO SIX FEKKIN POUNDS?!!!!?
WTF?!!!?
FAILFAILFAILFAILFAIL!!!
Asus EeePC looks better all the time.
Damn you, hp!!
And WTF?!!? Did they update that post since you people commented? The SIZE specs are right there:
13.27″ x 8.546″ x 5.281″
THIRTEEN FREAKIN INCHES?!!?
I hope you’re kidding, Mike.
Do you really think HP is going to sell an “ultra-portable” that’s 5 inches thick?
I think you mean five inches thin.
It’s 5″ thick, but less than .2″ at its thinnest point.
I was hoping for the Isaiah processor as well. It’s pin compatible with the C7, so I’m hoping that HP will drop it in when it’s available.
Also, HP regularly discounts their machines, so I’d expect the $549 to be under $500 in practice.
>>>Do you really think HP is going to sell an “ultra-portable” that’s 5 inches thick?
I have a defense, your honor!
Aftermath of fever!
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/blog-notes-oysters/
Apparently I should not be near a keyboard for another day!
It looks like my old Powerbook 12″, that I miss very much, especially the keyboard and metal housing. Let’s see some reviews and how it performs for Office 2007, my reason for not having the Powerbook anymore.
i hope they provide XP drivers
Kev & James, more important stories like this should stay stickied at the top of the page for that day. they get buried way to quickly by the others.
Ry, good suggestion. I’d love to have a spot above the fold with the top headlines of the day, but at the moment that would be a manual process. I’ll keep kicking thoughts around…
dont count on it James, not only has the Via been reported slower than the A1xx series by owners of platforms based on both but also in numerous benchmarks. i would have preferred them gone Intel since their gfx subsystems are MUCH better.
i know alot of OQO 02 owners have reported being satisfied with Via performance but i think thats a combination of low expectations (anything was better than Transmeta) & it couldnt run Aero by default like Intel units had to (which has a huge impact on performance).
personally i am fine with both Via & A1xx performance with Vista doing basic tasks (and if Aero is turned off on Intel). but like most i would prefer XP on them.
This looks pretty exciting. A small laptop with portable written all over it is what I need. It clearly isn’t as powerful as bigger laptops, but it will do laps around that ancient Compaq I have sitting in my room. I am sure a few months after release they will have better configuration options and cheaper prices for it. If jkOTR gets it, could you guys please make comparisons on how well it runs Vista and XP?
I’m really interessted in this subnotebook,
Can anyone tell me, how “bad” is the Via processor really? and the graphic card?
A comparison would be great, so for example, The Via 1,6 Ghz is as fast as a 1000 Mhz Pentium
And about the graphic card, it is so much better or less good than the EEE graphic card
Thanks in advance
Well Younes, I have seen a video of the Eee running WoW. It wasn’t perfect quality, but it worked. I would imagen this HP is similar.
James,
Does “Stay tuned” and “Hope to get my hands on this very, very soon” mean you might be reviewing this little puppy soon?
I, too, am extremely interested in this device and can barely wait for the first reviews to hit the streets.