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		<title>By: Stefan Kirov</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/15/vista-disk-thra/#comment-42742</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Kirov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Make yourselves a favor- put LINUX. My wife&#039;s laptop (VISTA home premium) burned 2 disks in less than a year.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Make yourselves a favor- put LINUX. My wife&#8217;s laptop (VISTA home premium) burned 2 disks in less than a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelangelo Capraro</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/15/vista-disk-thra/#comment-10315</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelangelo Capraro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;hey there James, i get this a lot too and in the same situation! i miss the first part of meetings and such and this never happened with XP. problem is aside from the dirk thrashing and &quot;Not Responding&quot; messages, Vista has such a nicer UI for the pen that i dont want to give it up!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i discovered (but its not very helpful) that if i kill the heavy apps before sleeping (mainly firefox with a zillion tabs open) then i dont have the thrashing as much.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;please keep me posted on if and how you get around this issue!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>hey there James, i get this a lot too and in the same situation! i miss the first part of meetings and such and this never happened with XP. problem is aside from the dirk thrashing and &#8220;Not Responding&#8221; messages, Vista has such a nicer UI for the pen that i dont want to give it up!</p>
<p>i discovered (but its not very helpful) that if i kill the heavy apps before sleeping (mainly firefox with a zillion tabs open) then i dont have the thrashing as much.</p>
<p>please keep me posted on if and how you get around this issue!</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Vance</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/15/vista-disk-thra/#comment-10316</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Vance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;A Mac (no less than 4 years old) takes about 10 seconds to wake from sleep. It takes about a minute to wake from hibernation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All Macs with OS X come with InkWell handwriting technology, developed by Apple about 5 years ago. It works in 3 languages. It will activate when a touchscreen driver is added to a Mac.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>A Mac (no less than 4 years old) takes about 10 seconds to wake from sleep. It takes about a minute to wake from hibernation.</p>
<p>All Macs with OS X come with InkWell handwriting technology, developed by Apple about 5 years ago. It works in 3 languages. It will activate when a touchscreen driver is added to a Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Dion Forster</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/15/vista-disk-thra/#comment-10317</link>
		<dc:creator>Dion Forster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve just had to make the move from my trusty Macbook Pro to a Windows Vista Acer Travelmate 6292.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thus far (2 weeks in) the notebook seems to be working well.  However, startup and shut down time is a bit of an issue for me.  I got quite used to opening the lid of my Mac and being ready to start typing. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;HOWEVER, it sure is great to simply plug the Acer into the network and have everything just sync up the Exchange server and work with every other Windows PC out there...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll confess, the Acer is growing on me!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll be off to Israel for a trip in about two weeks time and will leave my Macbook Pro at home... I&#039;m a little nervous already...  Yikes!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve just had to make the move from my trusty Macbook Pro to a Windows Vista Acer Travelmate 6292.</p>
<p>Thus far (2 weeks in) the notebook seems to be working well.  However, startup and shut down time is a bit of an issue for me.  I got quite used to opening the lid of my Mac and being ready to start typing. </p>
<p>HOWEVER, it sure is great to simply plug the Acer into the network and have everything just sync up the Exchange server and work with every other Windows PC out there&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll confess, the Acer is growing on me!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be off to Israel for a trip in about two weeks time and will leave my Macbook Pro at home&#8230; I&#8217;m a little nervous already&#8230;  Yikes!</p>
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		<title>By: Pym93</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/15/vista-disk-thra/#comment-10319</link>
		<dc:creator>Pym93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I have also been suffering from this problem on a plain duel-core laptop! I can&#039;t imagine it on an ultra portable solution...&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I have also been suffering from this problem on a plain duel-core laptop! I can&#8217;t imagine it on an ultra portable solution&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey Segal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey Segal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;bluespapa: I have Process Explorer running and the times I checked the offending process was svhost.exe, but about half the threads are svhost.exe so I don&#039;t know if that adds much information.  I don&#039;t know what to explore beyond that; if someone has an idea I&#039;d be glad to check.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t see the 100% CPU problem once the tablet is settled into the dock or settled out of the dock.  Similarly, I don&#039;t see it in two Vista desktops, which don&#039;t have docking considerations.  I expect that people wouldn&#039;t see it with convertible tablets for the same reason.  The only problems I have with sleep are with the tablet when it has just changed to or from being docked.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>bluespapa: I have Process Explorer running and the times I checked the offending process was svhost.exe, but about half the threads are svhost.exe so I don&#8217;t know if that adds much information.  I don&#8217;t know what to explore beyond that; if someone has an idea I&#8217;d be glad to check.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see the 100% CPU problem once the tablet is settled into the dock or settled out of the dock.  Similarly, I don&#8217;t see it in two Vista desktops, which don&#8217;t have docking considerations.  I expect that people wouldn&#8217;t see it with convertible tablets for the same reason.  The only problems I have with sleep are with the tablet when it has just changed to or from being docked.</p>
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		<title>By: John in Norway</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/15/vista-disk-thra/#comment-10323</link>
		<dc:creator>John in Norway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been dual booting my m200 for some time and have finally gone back to XP permanently. The thing that kept me in Vista (at least so I thought) was the better handwriting recognition. However, I&#039;m finding that it&#039;s not that big a deal even after training Vista. Maybe my handwriting isn&#039;t that bad anyway. About two weeks ago Vista started the same disk thrashing as you seem to be having. I forced a shutdown and started up XP - haven&#039;t been into Vista on it since.&lt;br /&gt;
SP3 for XP is coming soon as well.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I&#8217;ve been dual booting my m200 for some time and have finally gone back to XP permanently. The thing that kept me in Vista (at least so I thought) was the better handwriting recognition. However, I&#8217;m finding that it&#8217;s not that big a deal even after training Vista. Maybe my handwriting isn&#8217;t that bad anyway. About two weeks ago Vista started the same disk thrashing as you seem to be having. I forced a shutdown and started up XP &#8211; haven&#8217;t been into Vista on it since.<br />
SP3 for XP is coming soon as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have just had the same problem today with Vista. I have just spent 8 hours trying to get my computer working as I&#039;ve had problems with Vista and Office 2007.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Constant hang ups, &#039;not responding&#039; messages and full system crashes. Even launching the computer in Safe mode didn&#039;t help much.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Would defintely want to be going back to XP on my tablet at the moment...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I have just had the same problem today with Vista. I have just spent 8 hours trying to get my computer working as I&#8217;ve had problems with Vista and Office 2007.</p>
<p>Constant hang ups, &#8216;not responding&#8217; messages and full system crashes. Even launching the computer in Safe mode didn&#8217;t help much.</p>
<p>Would defintely want to be going back to XP on my tablet at the moment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;And how well does a Mac laptop let you handwrite notes?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>And how well does a Mac laptop let you handwrite notes?</p>
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		<title>By: Partners in Grime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Partners in Grime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;And how long does it take a Mac laptop to wake up and be useable?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>And how long does it take a Mac laptop to wake up and be useable?</p>
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		<title>By: IWorkThere</title>
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		<dc:creator>IWorkThere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Suggestions all look good. Keep the peace and rock the P1610&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Suggestions all look good. Keep the peace and rock the P1610</p>
<p>Group Hug</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Oh I just remembered that on my P1610 with vista business that I am using &quot;out of box&quot; with no thrashing----I did put project lasso on it. I know nothing about how that really works but could that have something to do with minimizing thrashing or have I only been lucky (so far).&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Oh I just remembered that on my P1610 with vista business that I am using &#8220;out of box&#8221; with no thrashing&#8212;-I did put project lasso on it. I know nothing about how that really works but could that have something to do with minimizing thrashing or have I only been lucky (so far).</p>
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		<title>By: bluespapa</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluespapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;What a hassle!  I have had more of that sort of waiting around with XP than with Vista, but you might try putting Sysinternals Process Explorer, which is like the task manager, but breaks down the services and such so you can pinpoint whatever is chewing it up.  I don&#039;t know that I would have waited so long before swiping.  I think I&#039;d have forced a shutdown and opened in Safe Mode if I had to to ensure a smooth boot.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m never tempted to shake or slam these fine instruments, but maybe drag it from the back of the car a few blocks.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>What a hassle!  I have had more of that sort of waiting around with XP than with Vista, but you might try putting Sysinternals Process Explorer, which is like the task manager, but breaks down the services and such so you can pinpoint whatever is chewing it up.  I don&#8217;t know that I would have waited so long before swiping.  I think I&#8217;d have forced a shutdown and opened in Safe Mode if I had to to ensure a smooth boot.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m never tempted to shake or slam these fine instruments, but maybe drag it from the back of the car a few blocks.  </p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have a P1610 with vista business for a month and have had no problems with thrashing. I have turned no services off.  But I do not dock and the only time it goes into hibernation rather than sleep is if the battery runs out (only happened once, no thrasing).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the way can someone tell me again how to turn those two services suggested off--might as well take no chances.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I have a P1610 with vista business for a month and have had no problems with thrashing. I have turned no services off.  But I do not dock and the only time it goes into hibernation rather than sleep is if the battery runs out (only happened once, no thrasing).</p>
<p>By the way can someone tell me again how to turn those two services suggested off&#8211;might as well take no chances.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wow that sucks. I run Vista on 3 machines, my u810 is my &quot;take everywhere&quot; machine and I have vista stripped with no indexing, minimal features activated and it runs flawlessly (Knock on wood) &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know everyone loves to jump on the vista bashing bandwagon, I use 3 vista machines daily with pretty much zero issues. I have no idea what the hell happened with your machine.. seems like you have a lot of issues with your equipment, mac or windows based.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Wow that sucks. I run Vista on 3 machines, my u810 is my &#8220;take everywhere&#8221; machine and I have vista stripped with no indexing, minimal features activated and it runs flawlessly (Knock on wood) </p>
<p>I know everyone loves to jump on the vista bashing bandwagon, I use 3 vista machines daily with pretty much zero issues. I have no idea what the hell happened with your machine.. seems like you have a lot of issues with your equipment, mac or windows based.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Good God!  And isn&#039;t this time bomb also available on the hp Mini Note?!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Good God!  And isn&#8217;t this time bomb also available on the hp Mini Note?!</p>
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