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	<title>Comments on: With a subsidized Apple iPhone, everyone wins</title>
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		<title>By: Tyrell</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/30/with-a-subsidiz/#comment-9672</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 11:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The original iPhone was not subsidised.  BUT the data package that went with it was dirt cheap.  What no one seems to realize is that if AT&amp;T subsidizes a phone, they pull the cost out of you with their contracts.  Because the iPhone was not subsidized, it actually cut my monthly bill in half over my previous Palm Treo. &lt;br /&gt;
Now, if AT&amp;T subsidizes the new iPhone, AND it uses their more expensive 3G network, what&#039;s going to stop them from jacking the price back up to $85+ a month just for data?&lt;br /&gt;
Last thought: GoodThings2Life, Who in their right mind would unlock a subsidized phone?  Have you EVER heard of such a thing on ANY other phone?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original iPhone was not subsidised.  BUT the data package that went with it was dirt cheap.  What no one seems to realize is that if AT&#038;T subsidizes a phone, they pull the cost out of you with their contracts.  Because the iPhone was not subsidized, it actually cut my monthly bill in half over my previous Palm Treo. <br />
Now, if AT&#038;T subsidizes the new iPhone, AND it uses their more expensive 3G network, what&#8217;s going to stop them from jacking the price back up to $85+ a month just for data?<br />
Last thought: GoodThings2Life, Who in their right mind would unlock a subsidized phone?  Have you EVER heard of such a thing on ANY other phone?</p>
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		<title>By: ignar</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/30/with-a-subsidiz/#comment-9673</link>
		<dc:creator>ignar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When I was getting my iPhone, I actually signed up with AT&amp;T Tilt. Then I sold it at eBay for about $300 profit and later got an iPhone from Apple store and changed my AT&amp;T plan to iPhone one. I call it DIY subsidizing. :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was getting my iPhone, I actually signed up with AT&#038;T Tilt. Then I sold it at eBay for about $300 profit and later got an iPhone from Apple store and changed my AT&#038;T plan to iPhone one. I call it DIY subsidizing. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TateJ</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/30/with-a-subsidiz/#comment-9675</link>
		<dc:creator>TateJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 10:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;The only thing that has kept me from getting an Iphone is the price.  I&#039;d get one in a heartbeat if they we $200.00 or less.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>The only thing that has kept me from getting an Iphone is the price.  I&#8217;d get one in a heartbeat if they we $200.00 or less.</p>
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		<title>By: tnkgrl</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/30/with-a-subsidiz/#comment-9677</link>
		<dc:creator>tnkgrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;The unsubsidized version better be unlocked.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>The unsubsidized version better be unlocked.</p>
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		<title>By: GoodThings2Life</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/30/with-a-subsidiz/#comment-9678</link>
		<dc:creator>GoodThings2Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I will never own an iPhone, an iPod, or any other Apple product. That said, when iPhone 2.0 firmware comes out it will officially prove what I&#039;ve said for years-- Apple is ONLY successful in the business world as long as they have Adobe and Microsoft to develop for them. Otherwise, they are little more than eye-candy for consumers.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I will never own an iPhone, an iPod, or any other Apple product. That said, when iPhone 2.0 firmware comes out it will officially prove what I&#8217;ve said for years&#8211; Apple is ONLY successful in the business world as long as they have Adobe and Microsoft to develop for them. Otherwise, they are little more than eye-candy for consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: GearsofWar</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/30/with-a-subsidiz/#comment-9681</link>
		<dc:creator>GearsofWar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;People had to pay full price and STILL sign a two year contract?!? Ouch!!! Boy, when Apple wants to stick it to the consumer, they sure know how to do it!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is all speculation right now. Apple hasn&#039;t &quot;stuck it&quot; to the consumer yet in this case. You realize that, right?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>&#8220;People had to pay full price and STILL sign a two year contract?!? Ouch!!! Boy, when Apple wants to stick it to the consumer, they sure know how to do it!&#8221;</p>
<p>This is all speculation right now. Apple hasn&#8217;t &#8220;stuck it&#8221; to the consumer yet in this case. You realize that, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Will Ginn</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/30/with-a-subsidiz/#comment-9683</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Ginn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have a BB Curve on at&amp;t and I am pleased with the device and service. That said I am just waiting to &quot;pull the trigger&quot; on a 2.0 iPhone!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a BB Curve on at&#038;t and I am pleased with the device and service. That said I am just waiting to &#8220;pull the trigger&#8221; on a 2.0 iPhone!</p>
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		<title>By: John in Norway</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/30/with-a-subsidiz/#comment-9687</link>
		<dc:creator>John in Norway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m sorry but I don&#039;t understand how anybody can win. Is this new iphone going to have half the functions of my Nokia N95 which cost me almost nothing? I only have a low cost one year plan with it (which I would have had anyway), so how anybody can be stupid enough to buy one of these iphones is beyond me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You really do get shafted in America it seems and are willing to settle for inferior products.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m sorry but I don&#8217;t understand how anybody can win. Is this new iphone going to have half the functions of my Nokia N95 which cost me almost nothing? I only have a low cost one year plan with it (which I would have had anyway), so how anybody can be stupid enough to buy one of these iphones is beyond me.</p>
<p>You really do get shafted in America it seems and are willing to settle for inferior products.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/30/with-a-subsidiz/#comment-9692</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;People had to pay full price and STILL sign a two year contract?!?  Ouch!!!  Boy, when Apple wants to stick it to the consumer, they sure know how to do it!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>People had to pay full price and STILL sign a two year contract?!?  Ouch!!!  Boy, when Apple wants to stick it to the consumer, they sure know how to do it!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul J Manoogian</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/04/30/with-a-subsidiz/#comment-9696</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul J Manoogian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think you hit on the most important thing; people will leave other carriers and the other carriers are left in the dark. I&#039;m guessing that Verizon is kicking themselves for ignoring Apple when they had the chance to be the premier carrier. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe the idea of subsidizing the iPhone will cause it to move to other networks. I love my WinMo phone, but the idea of sync from my well-stocked iTunes library would be a definite advantage; if it was on the right network.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My personal decision would be to keep my current network and wait for an iPhone with at least 160GB of storage - that would be perfect.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I think you hit on the most important thing; people will leave other carriers and the other carriers are left in the dark. I&#8217;m guessing that Verizon is kicking themselves for ignoring Apple when they had the chance to be the premier carrier. </p>
<p>Maybe the idea of subsidizing the iPhone will cause it to move to other networks. I love my WinMo phone, but the idea of sync from my well-stocked iTunes library would be a definite advantage; if it was on the right network.</p>
<p>My personal decision would be to keep my current network and wait for an iPhone with at least 160GB of storage &#8211; that would be perfect.</p>
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