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		<title>By: jkkmobile</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/06/09/jkontherun-iph/#comment-7888</link>
		<dc:creator>jkkmobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;The enable/disable 3G setting is real, and buried a few menus deep.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/iphone-3g-hands-on/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/iphone-3g-hands-on/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>&#8220;The enable/disable 3G setting is real, and buried a few menus deep.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/iphone-3g-hands-on/" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/iphone-3g-hands-on/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/06/09/jkontherun-iph/#comment-7890</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Folks have reported seeing such a switch in the beta firmware, but I&#039;ll wait until it&#039;s official. ;) You&#039;d think, hope and expect it would have it, but given the mass consumer audience, how many percentage of folks do you think will actually turn 3G off? I suspect a large amount won&#039;t. That would really interesting data to see captured and reported on!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Folks have reported seeing such a switch in the beta firmware, but I&#8217;ll wait until it&#8217;s official. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  You&#8217;d think, hope and expect it would have it, but given the mass consumer audience, how many percentage of folks do you think will actually turn 3G off? I suspect a large amount won&#8217;t. That would really interesting data to see captured and reported on!</p>
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		<title>By: jkkmobile</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/06/09/jkontherun-iph/#comment-7893</link>
		<dc:creator>jkkmobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;it has 3g on/off switch..&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>it has 3g on/off switch..</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Huizinga</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/06/09/jkontherun-iph/#comment-7898</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Huizinga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I use 1and1.com for my hosted Exchange Server account.  It&#039;s $6.99 per month and as mentioned earlier includes Outlook Web Access, IMAP/POP/SMTP access, mobile-device synchronization (Exchange ActiveSync) and an Outlook client license.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve noticed that other hosting companies tend to charge extra for the Exchange ActiveSync, but 1and1 includes it with the base price.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I use 1and1.com for my hosted Exchange Server account.  It&#8217;s $6.99 per month and as mentioned earlier includes Outlook Web Access, IMAP/POP/SMTP access, mobile-device synchronization (Exchange ActiveSync) and an Outlook client license.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that other hosting companies tend to charge extra for the Exchange ActiveSync, but 1and1 includes it with the base price.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/06/09/jkontherun-iph/#comment-7901</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gork, the $99 Centro point is a good one but AT&amp;T&#039;s Centro doesn&#039;t offer 3G. There&#039;s also a branding difference here. Ask 10 random consumers if they&#039;ve heard of the Centro and if they&#039;ve heard of the iPhone. ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rick, that&#039;s a good Exchange price you have. I was paying the same, but then rates with 4Smartphone went up. As you mention there&#039;s an advantage with Exchange accounts: you generally get a free Outlook (or Entourage) client license.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dan, you&#039;re correct and I goofed yesterday on the subsidization issue. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;JKK is right on talk time, but it may be irrelevant in this case. Some folks are reporting that there&#039;s no switch to turn off 3G on the new iPhone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kevin, from what I heard on the AT&amp;T conference call yesterday, first gen iPhone buyers won&#039;t have a problem getting a new device for $199 or $299. However, they will have new 2-year contract going forward.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gork, the $99 Centro point is a good one but AT&#038;T&#8217;s Centro doesn&#8217;t offer 3G. There&#8217;s also a branding difference here. Ask 10 random consumers if they&#8217;ve heard of the Centro and if they&#8217;ve heard of the iPhone. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Rick, that&#8217;s a good Exchange price you have. I was paying the same, but then rates with 4Smartphone went up. As you mention there&#8217;s an advantage with Exchange accounts: you generally get a free Outlook (or Entourage) client license.</p>
<p>Dan, you&#8217;re correct and I goofed yesterday on the subsidization issue. </p>
<p>JKK is right on talk time, but it may be irrelevant in this case. Some folks are reporting that there&#8217;s no switch to turn off 3G on the new iPhone.</p>
<p>Kevin, from what I heard on the AT&#038;T conference call yesterday, first gen iPhone buyers won&#8217;t have a problem getting a new device for $199 or $299. However, they will have new 2-year contract going forward.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin white</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/06/09/jkontherun-iph/#comment-7903</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin white</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve heard peeps that you will not be able to pay the 199 to switch to the 3G if you aren&#039;t yet eligible for an equipment upgrade. While I&#039;m sure that&#039;s AT&amp;T&#039;s usual policy, it&#039;s gonna generate a lot of money as people get suckered into paying more for something they thought was less.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t quite understand why notes and tasks are somehow magically different from other kinds of data. syncing anything is pretty difficult, but adding more &#039;things&#039; probably isn&#039;t that hard. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I already pay something like 70 a year for web hosting for two domains, which includes full php/mysql access and all my personal email. MobileMe seems kind of... excessive, given that I won&#039;t need the webhosting or email bit except to get personal email pushed to the iphone (not through yahoo&#039;s fake push). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am excited for 3G, as I use the internet quite a lot on my iphone and am almost never within a wifi network when I need to access some non-iphoneized website. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard peeps that you will not be able to pay the 199 to switch to the 3G if you aren&#8217;t yet eligible for an equipment upgrade. While I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s AT&#038;T&#8217;s usual policy, it&#8217;s gonna generate a lot of money as people get suckered into paying more for something they thought was less.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t quite understand why notes and tasks are somehow magically different from other kinds of data. syncing anything is pretty difficult, but adding more &#8216;things&#8217; probably isn&#8217;t that hard. </p>
<p>I already pay something like 70 a year for web hosting for two domains, which includes full php/mysql access and all my personal email. MobileMe seems kind of&#8230; excessive, given that I won&#8217;t need the webhosting or email bit except to get personal email pushed to the iphone (not through yahoo&#8217;s fake push). </p>
<p>I am excited for 3G, as I use the internet quite a lot on my iphone and am almost never within a wifi network when I need to access some non-iphoneized website. </p>
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		<title>By: jkkmobile</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/06/09/jkontherun-iph/#comment-7905</link>
		<dc:creator>jkkmobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;like on any 3g phone, if you swich to 2G mode you get more talk time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Talk time:&lt;br /&gt;
Up to 5 hours on 3G &lt;br /&gt;
Up to 10 hours on 2G &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;means: on 3g iphone you get 5 hours talk time if you use 3g network and 10 hours if you disable 3g and use 2g.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>like on any 3g phone, if you swich to 2G mode you get more talk time.</p>
<p>Talk time:<br />
Up to 5 hours on 3G <br />
Up to 10 hours on 2G </p>
<p>means: on 3g iphone you get 5 hours talk time if you use 3g network and 10 hours if you disable 3g and use 2g.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Cahill</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/06/09/jkontherun-iph/#comment-7907</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Cahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;To me this looks REALLY interesting. It&#039;s me.com that may make me get a 3G iphone rather than the 3G in the iphone itself. I can already do all these things but I need to carry several devices to do it. Having &quot;push&quot; email, data, photo etc all in one service give the iphone the &quot;storage&quot; I would want on the road. I have no desire to manage several apps when this can do it all in one. Plus I get to get rid of that awfull Mobile Device Centre once and for all.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not rushing in (wait to see if I can sync my existing email addresses, A2DP support etc) but I may finally replace three devices (Windows Mobile GPS Phone, Sony UX and Ipod Touch) with this one device and sync solution. This and Evernote. WOW.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>To me this looks REALLY interesting. It&#8217;s me.com that may make me get a 3G iphone rather than the 3G in the iphone itself. I can already do all these things but I need to carry several devices to do it. Having &#8220;push&#8221; email, data, photo etc all in one service give the iphone the &#8220;storage&#8221; I would want on the road. I have no desire to manage several apps when this can do it all in one. Plus I get to get rid of that awfull Mobile Device Centre once and for all.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not rushing in (wait to see if I can sync my existing email addresses, A2DP support etc) but I may finally replace three devices (Windows Mobile GPS Phone, Sony UX and Ipod Touch) with this one device and sync solution. This and Evernote. WOW.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/06/09/jkontherun-iph/#comment-7910</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;$199 is the subsidized price, you can&#039;t walk into an Apple Store and buy a 3G iPhone for $199 without getting a 2 year contract.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>$199 is the subsidized price, you can&#8217;t walk into an Apple Store and buy a 3G iPhone for $199 without getting a 2 year contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Huizinga</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/06/09/jkontherun-iph/#comment-7911</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Huizinga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was considering on using Mobile Me to replace my hosted Exchange Server account, but decided against it for the following reasons:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1) Mobile Me does not appear to sync tasks and notes between my laptop &amp; desktop.  I can live without tasks &amp; notes on the iPhone, but cannot live without task synchronization amongst my PCs.  Exchange Server supports this.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2) Price.  My hosted Exchange Server account is cheaper.  I pay $6.99 per month ($84 per year) and this includes mobile device synchronization (Windows Mobile and/or iPhone 2.0), Outlook Web Access, IMAP/POP/SMTP access and free Outlook 2007 licenses for installation on my PCs for accessing this Exchange account.  Mobile Me is $99 per year and would require me to purchase an Outlook license on top of that.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was considering on using Mobile Me to replace my hosted Exchange Server account, but decided against it for the following reasons:</p>
<p>1) Mobile Me does not appear to sync tasks and notes between my laptop &#038; desktop.  I can live without tasks &#038; notes on the iPhone, but cannot live without task synchronization amongst my PCs.  Exchange Server supports this.</p>
<p>2) Price.  My hosted Exchange Server account is cheaper.  I pay $6.99 per month ($84 per year) and this includes mobile device synchronization (Windows Mobile and/or iPhone 2.0), Outlook Web Access, IMAP/POP/SMTP access and free Outlook 2007 licenses for installation on my PCs for accessing this Exchange account.  Mobile Me is $99 per year and would require me to purchase an Outlook license on top of that.</p>
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		<title>By: gork</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/06/09/jkontherun-iph/#comment-7912</link>
		<dc:creator>gork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;$199 a compelling price??  I think the Centro had 99 pricing.  The iPhone 3g has two things at the 199 price point that makes it worth it:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1. More memory in 8 GB included.&lt;br /&gt;
2. Superior mobile browsing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Everything else the Centro and other Windows Mobile Phones can do.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>$199 a compelling price??  I think the Centro had 99 pricing.  The iPhone 3g has two things at the 199 price point that makes it worth it:</p>
<p>1. More memory in 8 GB included.<br />
2. Superior mobile browsing.</p>
<p>Everything else the Centro and other Windows Mobile Phones can do.</p>
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