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		<title>By: Girrelephant Master (Michael)</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6413</link>
		<dc:creator>Girrelephant Master (Michael)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Yea I made a comment to the manager about this one, all she did was just laugh and just said &quot;of all places, huh&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Yea I made a comment to the manager about this one, all she did was just laugh and just said &#8220;of all places, huh&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: norelation</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6415</link>
		<dc:creator>norelation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;apples &amp; oranges (ha!) &lt;br /&gt;
No competition.&lt;br /&gt;
.. And anyway who cares when the ratio of iPhone:WindowsCe store devices is so high. I only read this because I was wondering if the iPhone had a licensed WindowCe in it (see Mac bus, O/S, processor, serial i/o .. trend ).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This kind of article shows the level of some Apple nuts&#039; corporate loyality (to marketing?) in buying a phone. It would not hurt to look at the product itself rather then the name so that we consumers get better products instead of brand name bragging rights. Let&#039;s hope that the recent waves of excitement do not collapse completely but instead force the company to innovate (the product).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If Guy Kawasaki is still alive he is in the corner crying - 1980&#039;s are over - fads hit hard and die fast except for the few straggler evangelists.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is Microsoft even allowed to make a phone?&lt;br /&gt;
Is Apple too geeky to make a game console, heck, why can&#039;t the Mac do games or even web games (swf)? &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apples &#038; oranges (ha!) <br />
No competition.<br />
.. And anyway who cares when the ratio of iPhone:WindowsCe store devices is so high. I only read this because I was wondering if the iPhone had a licensed WindowCe in it (see Mac bus, O/S, processor, serial i/o .. trend ).</p>
<p>This kind of article shows the level of some Apple nuts&#8217; corporate loyality (to marketing?) in buying a phone. It would not hurt to look at the product itself rather then the name so that we consumers get better products instead of brand name bragging rights. Let&#8217;s hope that the recent waves of excitement do not collapse completely but instead force the company to innovate (the product).</p>
<p>If Guy Kawasaki is still alive he is in the corner crying &#8211; 1980&#8217;s are over &#8211; fads hit hard and die fast except for the few straggler evangelists.</p>
<p>Is Microsoft even allowed to make a phone?<br />
Is Apple too geeky to make a game console, heck, why can&#8217;t the Mac do games or even web games (swf)? </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Parks</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6420</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Parks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Heavens!&lt;br /&gt;
You mean to say that a company that doesn&#039;t develop POSS software actually used a competitor&#039;s product?!&lt;br /&gt;
What can we expect to see next?&lt;br /&gt;
MacOS running on the same hardware as Windows?!&lt;br /&gt;
A Two button mouse?!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;C&#039;mon, cut me some slack. Welcome to 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s a competing OS, not holy scripture.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Heavens!<br />
You mean to say that a company that doesn&#8217;t develop POSS software actually used a competitor&#8217;s product?!<br />
What can we expect to see next?<br />
MacOS running on the same hardware as Windows?!<br />
A Two button mouse?!</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon, cut me some slack. Welcome to 2008.<br />
It&#8217;s a competing OS, not holy scripture.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6423</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;That&#039;s not ironic, it&#039;s just coincidental!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>That&#8217;s not ironic, it&#8217;s just coincidental!</p>
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		<title>By: canjecricketer</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6426</link>
		<dc:creator>canjecricketer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Not even an Apple guy at all (don&#039;t own any of their products), but I&#039;m not sure what the big deal is here. Do you really think they&#039;d use a new product (iPhone 3g) to process transactions for the very same product? Do you think anyone plans on using a smart phone as a POS device? So if not the iPhone, what do you expect them to use? The iPod Touch? Once again... not exactly a POS device. Apple has never claimed to be a one-stop shop for every IT need in the world...&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Not even an Apple guy at all (don&#8217;t own any of their products), but I&#8217;m not sure what the big deal is here. Do you really think they&#8217;d use a new product (iPhone 3g) to process transactions for the very same product? Do you think anyone plans on using a smart phone as a POS device? So if not the iPhone, what do you expect them to use? The iPod Touch? Once again&#8230; not exactly a POS device. Apple has never claimed to be a one-stop shop for every IT need in the world&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6429</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Exactly -- I second Martin.  If anything, it&#039;s another jab at Microsoft:  &quot;Thanks for the point-of-sale software, Microsoft!  Without it, we simply wouldn&#039;t know *how* to deal with all these sales....&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Exactly &#8212; I second Martin.  If anything, it&#8217;s another jab at Microsoft:  &#8220;Thanks for the point-of-sale software, Microsoft!  Without it, we simply wouldn&#8217;t know *how* to deal with all these sales&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;So what?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Jerome Hughes</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6441</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;18 years ago programmed IBM S/38 and AS/400 machines for Apple back-end business processing &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;these are the same machines which were also used by Microsoft (and then hidden for years - you can only work on &#039;em under non-disclosure) to track shipments of their products&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;while both companies may have moved on since, the IBM i platform lives on, for good reason, and services your transactions way more often than you know&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;and don&#039;t kid yourself...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;when it comes to processing huge lucrative business transactions, you&#039;re probably not going to do it with brand new consumer technology&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;watch and see where it goes, and for a little foreshadowing which might help with connecting some dots... check out Steve Gillmor&#039;s prescient post &quot;The Enterprise iPhone Twitter Connection&quot; at &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/07/11/the-enterprise-iphone-twitter-connection/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/07/11/the-enterprise-iphone-twitter-connection/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>18 years ago programmed IBM S/38 and AS/400 machines for Apple back-end business processing </p>
<p>these are the same machines which were also used by Microsoft (and then hidden for years &#8211; you can only work on &#8216;em under non-disclosure) to track shipments of their products</p>
<p>while both companies may have moved on since, the IBM i platform lives on, for good reason, and services your transactions way more often than you know</p>
<p>and don&#8217;t kid yourself&#8230;</p>
<p>when it comes to processing huge lucrative business transactions, you&#8217;re probably not going to do it with brand new consumer technology</p>
<p>watch and see where it goes, and for a little foreshadowing which might help with connecting some dots&#8230; check out Steve Gillmor&#8217;s prescient post &#8220;The Enterprise iPhone Twitter Connection&#8221; at </p>
<p><a href="http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/07/11/the-enterprise-iphone-twitter-connection/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/07/11/the-enterprise-iphone-twitter-connection/</a> </p>
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		<title>By: Craig Ferry</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6446</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Ferry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Yes, yes, very amusing. Does anyone seriously suggest that Apple should waste time developing a custom hardware and software solution to make a few thousand POS terminals for its 187 stores? As a shareholder, I&#039;m perfectly happy to see them buy a turnkey solution for POS and get on with the business of developing their next multi-million selling consumer product.&lt;br /&gt;
On the other hand, I don&#039;t suppose it is beyond the realm of possibility that Apple might one day license it&#039;s mobile version of OS X to developers who want to create niche market products like this.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Yes, yes, very amusing. Does anyone seriously suggest that Apple should waste time developing a custom hardware and software solution to make a few thousand POS terminals for its 187 stores? As a shareholder, I&#8217;m perfectly happy to see them buy a turnkey solution for POS and get on with the business of developing their next multi-million selling consumer product.<br />
On the other hand, I don&#8217;t suppose it is beyond the realm of possibility that Apple might one day license it&#8217;s mobile version of OS X to developers who want to create niche market products like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Elmer-DeWitt</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6449</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Elmer-DeWitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not sure the role Microsoft played in the iPhone 3G launch is anything to brag about, if my experience is typical. The Apple staffers handling my transaction went through four different hand-held scanners before they finally completed my purchase. The first couldn&#039;t read my credit card. When the second got hung up and my teal-colored assistant asked to replace it, he was told by his supervisor that everybody was having the same problem. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I&#8217;m not sure the role Microsoft played in the iPhone 3G launch is anything to brag about, if my experience is typical. The Apple staffers handling my transaction went through four different hand-held scanners before they finally completed my purchase. The first couldn&#8217;t read my credit card. When the second got hung up and my teal-colored assistant asked to replace it, he was told by his supervisor that everybody was having the same problem. </p>
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		<title>By: Savage</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6453</link>
		<dc:creator>Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;The guy just used the words &quot;rock solid&quot; and &quot;microsoft&quot; in the same sentence!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>The guy just used the words &#8220;rock solid&#8221; and &#8220;microsoft&#8221; in the same sentence!</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6455</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Well, a few years I remember visiting a Microsoft booth at some computer show (CES?) and what did they use to scan my badge?  A Handspring device with PalmOS software.  A year or so later I observed the same at a Nokia booth.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Well, a few years I remember visiting a Microsoft booth at some computer show (CES?) and what did they use to scan my badge?  A Handspring device with PalmOS software.  A year or so later I observed the same at a Nokia booth.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6457</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Thanks to the folk in the store for putting up with me, and I hope no one gets into trouble for allowing Vista on the premises.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ha!  I&#039;ve sat in the Soho store using -- at that time -- the cursed 770.  *On AC*!  (It has an upstairs theater and each seat has an outlet.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That store -- don&#039;t know if this is still happening -- had this woman who&#039;d show up with a Windows laptop and sit for hours and hours and hours sucking on the free WiFi.  EVERY DAY!  Never asked to leave.  But the Apple Cultists would exchange looks and also leave snarky posts I&#039;ve seen around about her.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>>>>Thanks to the folk in the store for putting up with me, and I hope no one gets into trouble for allowing Vista on the premises.</p>
<p>Ha!  I&#8217;ve sat in the Soho store using &#8212; at that time &#8212; the cursed 770.  *On AC*!  (It has an upstairs theater and each seat has an outlet.)</p>
<p>That store &#8212; don&#8217;t know if this is still happening &#8212; had this woman who&#8217;d show up with a Windows laptop and sit for hours and hours and hours sucking on the free WiFi.  EVERY DAY!  Never asked to leave.  But the Apple Cultists would exchange looks and also leave snarky posts I&#8217;ve seen around about her.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Snitch!</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6458</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Snitch!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Nice of MS to help Apple count its money that way. Do they have anything to polish the glass in the Apple Stores?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Nice of MS to help Apple count its money that way. Do they have anything to polish the glass in the Apple Stores?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/12/iphone-3g-brou/#comment-6459</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Microsoft is now Apple&#039;s ho.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I TRIED to warn the world yesterday!!  But did anyone listen?!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/07/11/james-kendrick-tech-fiend-ultimate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/07/11/james-kendrick-tech-fiend-ultimate/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nooooo!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now I try it again:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/i-knew-it-kendrick-bought-an-iphone-3g/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/i-knew-it-kendrick-bought-an-iphone-3g/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;FIIIEEEEEEEEND!!!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So when are you and Kevin doing your Torment Mike Cane With Our iPhones Video?!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Microsoft is now Apple&#8217;s ho.</p>
<p>I TRIED to warn the world yesterday!!  But did anyone listen?!<br />
<a href="http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/07/11/james-kendrick-tech-fiend-ultimate/" rel="nofollow">http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/07/11/james-kendrick-tech-fiend-ultimate/</a></p>
<p>Nooooo!</p>
<p>Now I try it again:<br />
<a href="http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/i-knew-it-kendrick-bought-an-iphone-3g/" rel="nofollow">http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/i-knew-it-kendrick-bought-an-iphone-3g/</a></p>
<p>FIIIEEEEEEEEND!!!!</p>
<p>So when are you and Kevin doing your Torment Mike Cane With Our iPhones Video?!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Nicholls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Nicholls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;For one Apple store that wasn&#039;t the only Microsoft action going on. I&#039;m from the UK, but I was working in Denver this week. Having tried and failed to get my Touch upgraded to 2.0 before I checked out of my hotel yesterday I decided to have one more try before heading to the airport. I was in the Park Meadows mall so I sat down on a couch outside the Apple store and connected to the free wifi. When I connected my Touch I found that it had corrupted and everything was gone. By this time my laptop battery was running low and I was facing an 8 hour flight with no music so I wandered in to the Apple store and, to their credit, no one turned a hair when I asked if I could plug in to their power and re-sync. I spent about two hours in the store with my Lenovo X61 Tablet and Touch sitting on a display counter next to a Mac Pro while I restored everything. I did get a few people come over to see the new &#039;mac tablet&#039;, which was very amusing. Thanks to the folk in the store for putting up with me, and I hope no one gets into trouble for allowing Vista on the premises.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>For one Apple store that wasn&#8217;t the only Microsoft action going on. I&#8217;m from the UK, but I was working in Denver this week. Having tried and failed to get my Touch upgraded to 2.0 before I checked out of my hotel yesterday I decided to have one more try before heading to the airport. I was in the Park Meadows mall so I sat down on a couch outside the Apple store and connected to the free wifi. When I connected my Touch I found that it had corrupted and everything was gone. By this time my laptop battery was running low and I was facing an 8 hour flight with no music so I wandered in to the Apple store and, to their credit, no one turned a hair when I asked if I could plug in to their power and re-sync. I spent about two hours in the store with my Lenovo X61 Tablet and Touch sitting on a display counter next to a Mac Pro while I restored everything. I did get a few people come over to see the new &#8216;mac tablet&#8217;, which was very amusing. Thanks to the folk in the store for putting up with me, and I hope no one gets into trouble for allowing Vista on the premises.</p>
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