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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I come close, at about 33 hours, provided I rely solely on my UX, my Tekkeon packs, and my UPS units.  That&#039;s not a bad rig, however, and I don&#039;t have to swap systems at any point.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I come close, at about 33 hours, provided I rely solely on my UX, my Tekkeon packs, and my UPS units.  That&#8217;s not a bad rig, however, and I don&#8217;t have to swap systems at any point.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Two batteries for the NC8000 laptop with 3G data card, 6-7 hours.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The N800 battery plus the one out of the 770, 4 to 10 hours, depending on what it&#039;s doing.  It&#039;ll only have connectivity as long as the battery in the W950 phone holds out though, which isn&#039;t very long on 3G&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I&#039;m desperate, I have old Palm 3 XE that can go as long the pile of AAA batteries lasts.  No internet connection on that, though.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If the car is still working, I have an inverter and iGo charger that I can use to charge that lot.  I don&#039;t know how long the diesel would last running the engine at idle, a day or so?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Alan.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Two batteries for the NC8000 laptop with 3G data card, 6-7 hours.</p>
<p>The N800 battery plus the one out of the 770, 4 to 10 hours, depending on what it&#8217;s doing.  It&#8217;ll only have connectivity as long as the battery in the W950 phone holds out though, which isn&#8217;t very long on 3G</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m desperate, I have old Palm 3 XE that can go as long the pile of AAA batteries lasts.  No internet connection on that, though.</p>
<p>If the car is still working, I have an inverter and iGo charger that I can use to charge that lot.  I don&#8217;t know how long the diesel would last running the engine at idle, a day or so?</p>
<p>Alan.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott_H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott_H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m surprised more people don&#039;t own portable generators. They&#039;re small and cheap. Having grown up in Florida, I learned there are lots of things that can knock out power for substantial periods of time -- mostly storm-related (hurricanes, tornados, thunder storms...even the very rare ice storm), but even under &quot;normal&quot; operating conditions (esp. in the summer) the grid can be overwhelmed (resulting in forced blackouts or brownouts). If one&#039;s livelihood depends on the availability of electricity (e.g., someone working from home), even short interruptions can be costly.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I realize this won&#039;t help with the rest of the infrastructure we&#039;d need to be able to &quot;work in the cloud,&quot; but this is cheap insurance for the home.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m surprised more people don&#8217;t own portable generators. They&#8217;re small and cheap. Having grown up in Florida, I learned there are lots of things that can knock out power for substantial periods of time &#8212; mostly storm-related (hurricanes, tornados, thunder storms&#8230;even the very rare ice storm), but even under &#8220;normal&#8221; operating conditions (esp. in the summer) the grid can be overwhelmed (resulting in forced blackouts or brownouts). If one&#8217;s livelihood depends on the availability of electricity (e.g., someone working from home), even short interruptions can be costly.</p>
<p>I realize this won&#8217;t help with the rest of the infrastructure we&#8217;d need to be able to &#8220;work in the cloud,&#8221; but this is cheap insurance for the home.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Cahill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Cahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Although I only got my Mini-Note yesterday (love it - but boy do I wish it had a touch screen. if ever there was a device.......) you have just given me my next excuse for another computer purchase.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Well Honey, Think of the extra tme on-line we&#039;ll have if we get hit by a hurricane.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Gordon&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Although I only got my Mini-Note yesterday (love it &#8211; but boy do I wish it had a touch screen. if ever there was a device&#8230;&#8230;.) you have just given me my next excuse for another computer purchase.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well Honey, Think of the extra tme on-line we&#8217;ll have if we get hit by a hurricane.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gordon</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Living in Houston for most of my life I am well aware of the problems of hurricanes, but I would also submit that we have not really seen a powerful storm here in a while - certainly not since the breakup of the Bell system and the move to broadband, cellular, and cable as primary means of communications.  I wonder if we had a severe storm would there be power to drive cell towers? If you are using cable for VoIP there is a good chance you would be without both voice and Internet access for a while.  It used to be that good old POTS lines had enough power running through them you could use an old phone even if your home&#039;s power was out.  Now most people have fancy home phones that require power adaptors to run. Somewhere in a box I have an old analog phone saved that does not require a power adapter just for emergencies.  As for using a cell phone as a modem to get Internet access, IF the cell towers do have power, and they are not overloaded with people trying to make phone calls, then how much of the Internet today is really usable at any speed below low-end DSL speeds?  Most websites have moved on to the assumption that no one uses dial-up anymore.  Having a strong respect for hurricanes and the power of mother nature, I wonder just how things will fair when we have &quot;the big one&quot;  And don&#039;t get me started on evacuation plans. Houston grew way too large to successfully evacuate years ago.  We will have gridlock again just as we did last time.  &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Living in Houston for most of my life I am well aware of the problems of hurricanes, but I would also submit that we have not really seen a powerful storm here in a while &#8211; certainly not since the breakup of the Bell system and the move to broadband, cellular, and cable as primary means of communications.  I wonder if we had a severe storm would there be power to drive cell towers? If you are using cable for VoIP there is a good chance you would be without both voice and Internet access for a while.  It used to be that good old POTS lines had enough power running through them you could use an old phone even if your home&#8217;s power was out.  Now most people have fancy home phones that require power adaptors to run. Somewhere in a box I have an old analog phone saved that does not require a power adapter just for emergencies.  As for using a cell phone as a modem to get Internet access, IF the cell towers do have power, and they are not overloaded with people trying to make phone calls, then how much of the Internet today is really usable at any speed below low-end DSL speeds?  Most websites have moved on to the assumption that no one uses dial-up anymore.  Having a strong respect for hurricanes and the power of mother nature, I wonder just how things will fair when we have &#8220;the big one&#8221;  And don&#8217;t get me started on evacuation plans. Houston grew way too large to successfully evacuate years ago.  We will have gridlock again just as we did last time.  </p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;They only have the 6-cell for $129. Part # KU528AA.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the machine is discontinued before they have the battery available :(&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>They only have the 6-cell for $129. Part # KU528AA.  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the machine is discontinued before they have the battery available <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I got my 3 cell direct from HP and they should be available soon if not already.  Check their online store.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I got my 3 cell direct from HP and they should be available soon if not already.  Check their online store.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Where did you get the two batteries for your 2133?  I am still looking for the 3-cell battery to augment the 6-cell battery that the machine came with.  Maybe you could prod your HP contacts to see when they&#039;ll get around to offering these as accessories? ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Where did you get the two batteries for your 2133?  I am still looking for the 3-cell battery to augment the 6-cell battery that the machine came with.  Maybe you could prod your HP contacts to see when they&#8217;ll get around to offering these as accessories? <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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