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		<title>By: Jimtravis</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/28/iphone-changin/#comment-5640</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimtravis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nothing new here, I have been using a PDA/Smartphone for brief web surfing since 2001.  I first started using a mobile device rather than a laptop with a HandSpring Visor PDA along with the Intel WiFi Springboard module.  Since 2001, I have regularly used a Palm OS or WM device for short web surfing sessions.  Although scrolling and panning a full desktop site from the small screen of an iPhone or other mobile device looks cool in the demo, it is a pain for regular use.  I prefer a good vertically oriented mobile website any day on a mobile device with &lt; 7&quot; screen.   The much maligned Pocket IE is one of best browsers for the mobile internet.  Surprisingly, Mobile Safari is one of the least desirable browsers for generic (not iPhone specific) mobile web pages.  About 85% of my mobile device browsing is using Pocket IE due to its fine rendering of the generic mobile web.  For the other 15% (usually because the site does not have a mobile version) I use Opera Mini, or the latest versions of Mobile Opera / NetFront.  I have found NetFront, and Opera Mini to be the equal of Mobile Safari for the full web (particularly on a 4&quot; VGA WM device), and far superior to Mobile Safari for displaying generic mobile pages.  I do not have an iPhone  because it is too feature deficient for my needs, but I do have an iPod touch.  I rarely use the touch for web browsing because I prefer the vertically oriented mobile web on small screen devices, and just about any other mobile browser does a much better job displaying the mobile web.  It is a rare day when I have not used a VGA WM device (Toshiba e830 - 5 years old and still love it -, Dell X51v, or HP210) to check something on the web.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One of the more popular trends on the web now is for iPhone specific webpages which eliminate the horizontal scrolling that looks cool in demos, and gets old very quickly, at least for me.  I also find it a bit ironic that many mobile gadget sites on the web use the latest formatting standards which many mobile devices either can not render, or can only view with extensive horizontal scrolling.  With the explosion of internet capable mobile devices, there should be more generic mobile sites.  I much prefer using the mobile NYTImes site over the full NYTimtes site on small screen devices.  Mobile Safari, NetFront, Mobile Opera, and Opera Mini can all render the full NYTImes site fine (except for the front page flash video), but too much horizontal scrolling is required to find what you want.  The mobile site has basically the same info as the full site, but eliminates the dreaded horizontal scrolling.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing new here, I have been using a PDA/Smartphone for brief web surfing since 2001.  I first started using a mobile device rather than a laptop with a HandSpring Visor PDA along with the Intel WiFi Springboard module.  Since 2001, I have regularly used a Palm OS or WM device for short web surfing sessions.  Although scrolling and panning a full desktop site from the small screen of an iPhone or other mobile device looks cool in the demo, it is a pain for regular use.  I prefer a good vertically oriented mobile website any day on a mobile device with < 7" screen.   The much maligned Pocket IE is one of best browsers for the mobile internet.  Surprisingly, Mobile Safari is one of the least desirable browsers for generic (not iPhone specific) mobile web pages.  About 85% of my mobile device browsing is using Pocket IE due to its fine rendering of the generic mobile web.  For the other 15% (usually because the site does not have a mobile version) I use Opera Mini, or the latest versions of Mobile Opera / NetFront.  I have found NetFront, and Opera Mini to be the equal of Mobile Safari for the full web (particularly on a 4" VGA WM device), and far superior to Mobile Safari for displaying generic mobile pages.  I do not have an iPhone  because it is too feature deficient for my needs, but I do have an iPod touch.  I rarely use the touch for web browsing because I prefer the vertically oriented mobile web on small screen devices, and just about any other mobile browser does a much better job displaying the mobile web.  It is a rare day when I have not used a VGA WM device (Toshiba e830 - 5 years old and still love it -, Dell X51v, or HP210) to check something on the web.</p>
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<p>One of the more popular trends on the web now is for iPhone specific webpages which eliminate the horizontal scrolling that looks cool in demos, and gets old very quickly, at least for me.  I also find it a bit ironic that many mobile gadget sites on the web use the latest formatting standards which many mobile devices either can not render, or can only view with extensive horizontal scrolling.  With the explosion of internet capable mobile devices, there should be more generic mobile sites.  I much prefer using the mobile NYTImes site over the full NYTimtes site on small screen devices.  Mobile Safari, NetFront, Mobile Opera, and Opera Mini can all render the full NYTImes site fine (except for the front page flash video), but too much horizontal scrolling is required to find what you want.  The mobile site has basically the same info as the full site, but eliminates the dreaded horizontal scrolling.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/28/iphone-changin/#comment-5641</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I think it&#039;s good the general public is becoming more aware of the possibility to use the Web on your mobile device, but really, this has been possible for a few years.  As mentionned above, Opera Mini has allowed me to do this for some time.  Granted, Safari and Opera Mobile do offer a richer experience.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I think it&#8217;s good the general public is becoming more aware of the possibility to use the Web on your mobile device, but really, this has been possible for a few years.  As mentionned above, Opera Mini has allowed me to do this for some time.  Granted, Safari and Opera Mobile do offer a richer experience.</p>
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		<title>By: sachin</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/28/iphone-changin/#comment-5642</link>
		<dc:creator>sachin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I did not know of your existence a while ago but when I heard the news that Gigaom brought you I thought of reading your blog jkontherun, now I am your daily visitor and find your writings really interesting and and and I love he iPhone too.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I did not know of your existence a while ago but when I heard the news that Gigaom brought you I thought of reading your blog jkontherun, now I am your daily visitor and find your writings really interesting and and and I love he iPhone too.</p>
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		<title>By: YpoCaramel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/28/iphone-changin/#comment-5643</link>
		<dc:creator>YpoCaramel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been using Opera Mini the same way. With Opera Mobile 9.5&#039;s release the Java browser has really been overlooked. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I&#8217;ve been using Opera Mini the same way. With Opera Mobile 9.5&#8217;s release the Java browser has really been overlooked. </p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/28/iphone-changin/#comment-5644</link>
		<dc:creator>turn.self.off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;to bad its a locked down device that initiates this change...&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>to bad its a locked down device that initiates this change&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Taxman</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/28/iphone-changin/#comment-5645</link>
		<dc:creator>Taxman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I agree with @PJE, your site could benefit from a little bit of reformatting since it is a mobile tech site.  As for other people&#039;s website, think about the growing use of mobile devices (WM and iPhone) and cut down on the use of Flash since I can&#039;t see it on my mobile device.  Also, some of the comment schemes on blogs are virtually impossible to use from an iPhone.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Still, these are but niggles, and I heartily agree with the premise of your post.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I agree with @PJE, your site could benefit from a little bit of reformatting since it is a mobile tech site.  As for other people&#8217;s website, think about the growing use of mobile devices (WM and iPhone) and cut down on the use of Flash since I can&#8217;t see it on my mobile device.  Also, some of the comment schemes on blogs are virtually impossible to use from an iPhone.  </p>
<p>Still, these are but niggles, and I heartily agree with the premise of your post.</p>
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		<title>By: QSS</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/28/iphone-changin/#comment-5646</link>
		<dc:creator>QSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I have tested myself and find I can type roughly as fast on my iPhone as my BlackBerry, Mogul, Treo, and Advantage.  I have heard the &#039;No Real Keyboard&#039; comment before, but, at least in my case, it is not a real criticism.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I have tested myself and find I can type roughly as fast on my iPhone as my BlackBerry, Mogul, Treo, and Advantage.  I have heard the &#8216;No Real Keyboard&#8217; comment before, but, at least in my case, it is not a real criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: andy burnett</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/28/iphone-changin/#comment-5647</link>
		<dc:creator>andy burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have exactly the same experience. Despite having numerous alternatives, I keep reaching for the iphone, particularly for my google reader work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Having said that @PJE&#039;s comment about Flash and the keyboard is very true.  I find the keyboard great for relatively simple emails etc, but too slow for note taking.  However, my N810 combined with the Logmein client and Nokia&#039;s bluetooth keyboard seems to work as an excellent complement. If only I could have everything in one device! ;-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I have exactly the same experience. Despite having numerous alternatives, I keep reaching for the iphone, particularly for my google reader work.</p>
<p>Having said that @PJE&#8217;s comment about Flash and the keyboard is very true.  I find the keyboard great for relatively simple emails etc, but too slow for note taking.  However, my N810 combined with the Logmein client and Nokia&#8217;s bluetooth keyboard seems to work as an excellent complement. If only I could have everything in one device! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: al</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/07/28/iphone-changin/#comment-5648</link>
		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;All true... But the lack of any real keyboard makes it a consumer device...not business equipment.  And lack of flash...I read your exellent post and right under it was the hated little cube which says &quot;sorry...I can&#039;t read this content&quot;. Bluetooth keyboard and flash would answer these objections. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>All true&#8230; But the lack of any real keyboard makes it a consumer device&#8230;not business equipment.  And lack of flash&#8230;I read your exellent post and right under it was the hated little cube which says &#8220;sorry&#8230;I can&#8217;t read this content&#8221;. Bluetooth keyboard and flash would answer these objections. </p>
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		<title>By: PJE</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;James,  I was looking at your site viewed by the iPhone and was wondering it were possible for you to halve the width of the right-hand orange column? This would allow the site to be viewed on many mobile devices without needing to zoom in and out.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>James,  I was looking at your site viewed by the iPhone and was wondering it were possible for you to halve the width of the right-hand orange column? This would allow the site to be viewed on many mobile devices without needing to zoom in and out.</p>
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