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		<title>By: mosaicvp</title>
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		<dc:creator>mosaicvp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>97% sound about right even now Firefox on my MacPro 17 and have been quite happy to:)

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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/08/04/time-to-start-e/#comment-5205</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mike, I didn&#039;t put the Eee through the same paces back then.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Solomon, when in my home office, I&#039;m on the 24-inch display. Anywhere else (at home or out) is the 7-inch screen. I haven&#039;t kept track of the percentage as I&#039;m not testing productivity between a 24-inch and a 7-inch monitor. That experiment would yield the same results regardless of using web-only, client apps or a mixture.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Johan, I don&#039;t think Wakoopa is 100% accurate to begin with. Example: when I click &quot;Last Week&quot; in my profile, it says I used Firefox for 25 hours. I know I used it far more than that in a week. The graph I showed is from what Wakoopa says is &quot;Last Month&quot;. There&#039;s no way to show 60 days. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Mike, I didn&#8217;t put the Eee through the same paces back then.</p>
<p>Solomon, when in my home office, I&#8217;m on the 24-inch display. Anywhere else (at home or out) is the 7-inch screen. I haven&#8217;t kept track of the percentage as I&#8217;m not testing productivity between a 24-inch and a 7-inch monitor. That experiment would yield the same results regardless of using web-only, client apps or a mixture.</p>
<p>Johan, I don&#8217;t think Wakoopa is 100% accurate to begin with. Example: when I click &#8220;Last Week&#8221; in my profile, it says I used Firefox for 25 hours. I know I used it far more than that in a week. The graph I showed is from what Wakoopa says is &#8220;Last Month&#8221;. There&#8217;s no way to show 60 days. </p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/08/04/time-to-start-e/#comment-5207</link>
		<dc:creator>James Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;One thing I&#039;m hearing regularly in discussions about Kevin&#039;s cloud-only experiment is how many feel that using anything like big screens or client-based programs is against the &quot;spirit of the cloud&quot;.  I&#039;m not sure I understand that thought process at all as it defeats one&#039;s ability to use the best tool at hand.  I don&#039;t feel that using a desktop computer is &quot;against the cloud&quot; for example if that&#039;s what is at hand.  To me as long as the data is in the clouds that&#039;s good enough, and others as long as the apps are in the cloud that&#039;s even better.  But not using particular hardware for cloud work?  Is the cloud against larger devices?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>One thing I&#8217;m hearing regularly in discussions about Kevin&#8217;s cloud-only experiment is how many feel that using anything like big screens or client-based programs is against the &#8220;spirit of the cloud&#8221;.  I&#8217;m not sure I understand that thought process at all as it defeats one&#8217;s ability to use the best tool at hand.  I don&#8217;t feel that using a desktop computer is &#8220;against the cloud&#8221; for example if that&#8217;s what is at hand.  To me as long as the data is in the clouds that&#8217;s good enough, and others as long as the apps are in the cloud that&#8217;s even better.  But not using particular hardware for cloud work?  Is the cloud against larger devices?</p>
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		<title>By: Johan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;60 days and you&#039;ve been using your computer in total only ~120 hours? That&#039;s 2 hours per day, sounds a like somethings wrong or you&#039;re a productive one maintaining the site during only two hours a day. =). Explaination?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>60 days and you&#8217;ve been using your computer in total only ~120 hours? That&#8217;s 2 hours per day, sounds a like somethings wrong or you&#8217;re a productive one maintaining the site during only two hours a day. =). Explaination?</p>
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		<title>By: solomon</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/08/04/time-to-start-e/#comment-5212</link>
		<dc:creator>solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;i would say that using that 24&quot; screen, in someways, defeats the whole idea, &quot;mobile/cloud, productivity&quot; essentially you are cheating on the mobile productivity side of things.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;what % are you on the 24&quot; versus the 7&quot;?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>i would say that using that 24&#8243; screen, in someways, defeats the whole idea, &#8220;mobile/cloud, productivity&#8221; essentially you are cheating on the mobile productivity side of things.</p>
<p>what % are you on the 24&#8243; versus the 7&#8243;?</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Cahill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Cahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s gadget lust, pure and simple. RESIST KEVIN, RESIST.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve just bought a Mini-Note as a result of relenting. It&#039;s a great little machine and even runs Photoshop and Lightroom for lightweight tasks. But I didn&#039;t need it and I really do miss my touch screen and active digitiser.&lt;br /&gt;
Also it would take 3 extended batteries to get 10 hours mobile.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think you need to list the events where a netbook would be a more useful device than the Q1 you have now. And then list the time when the Q1 has been a pain to use. If the list is long then away you go. But your choices of a good keyboard are limited.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I feel that a massive netbook round-up and comparison article is in order (hear that manufacturers?). You should be good for at least a couple of months then.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Gordon&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>It&#8217;s gadget lust, pure and simple. RESIST KEVIN, RESIST.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just bought a Mini-Note as a result of relenting. It&#8217;s a great little machine and even runs Photoshop and Lightroom for lightweight tasks. But I didn&#8217;t need it and I really do miss my touch screen and active digitiser.<br />
Also it would take 3 extended batteries to get 10 hours mobile.</p>
<p>I think you need to list the events where a netbook would be a more useful device than the Q1 you have now. And then list the time when the Q1 has been a pain to use. If the list is long then away you go. But your choices of a good keyboard are limited.</p>
<p>I feel that a massive netbook round-up and comparison article is in order (hear that manufacturers?). You should be good for at least a couple of months then.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/08/04/time-to-start-e/#comment-5214</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;will Firefox be choking on my my all-day, multi-tab usage?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well what happened when you had the 7xx with the Celeron?  Did you at least try that?!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>>>>will Firefox be choking on my my all-day, multi-tab usage?</p>
<p>Well what happened when you had the 7xx with the Celeron?  Did you at least try that?!</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;@ Paul&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do view Flash sites, and it&#039;s true that they can sometimes be laggy. But, it&#039;s never been bad enough for me to even think twice about it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Flash isn&#039;t one of my primary concerns. As long as it&#039;s serviceable, it&#039;s good enough for me. And, to me, the HP is more than serviceable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>@ Paul</p>
<p>I do view Flash sites, and it&#8217;s true that they can sometimes be laggy. But, it&#8217;s never been bad enough for me to even think twice about it.</p>
<p>Flash isn&#8217;t one of my primary concerns. As long as it&#8217;s serviceable, it&#8217;s good enough for me. And, to me, the HP is more than serviceable.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/08/04/time-to-start-e/#comment-5216</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;If your Q1 is treating you so well, and meets all of your needs, I see no reason at all to buy a netbook of your own.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Feign interest so manufacturers will send you test units to play with and &quot;review&quot; therefore driving up your hits from other tech sites and search results, yes.  But spend your hard-earned money on 5 year old quality hardware just because it was built this year?  Seems silly to me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>If your Q1 is treating you so well, and meets all of your needs, I see no reason at all to buy a netbook of your own.</p>
<p>Feign interest so manufacturers will send you test units to play with and &#8220;review&#8221; therefore driving up your hits from other tech sites and search results, yes.  But spend your hard-earned money on 5 year old quality hardware just because it was built this year?  Seems silly to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Conri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i still dont understand why Kevin is even doing the whole cloud thing, its more of a gimmick for you than anything with substance.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;you primarily only use 1 machine. you arent really mobile by going to coffee shops &amp; traveling 1-2 times a year. the &quot;cloud&quot; was created for people to have access to their information with multiple machines from multiple locations. it&#039;s is suppose to create a division between a person &amp; dedicated hardware so they are no longer tied to it, which you are doing the exact opposite of.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;you could do just as well (actually better) with 1 machine &amp; a big HDD to store your apps &amp; data.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>you primarily only use 1 machine. you arent really mobile by going to coffee shops &#038; traveling 1-2 times a year. the &#8220;cloud&#8221; was created for people to have access to their information with multiple machines from multiple locations. it&#8217;s is suppose to create a division between a person &#038; dedicated hardware so they are no longer tied to it, which you are doing the exact opposite of.</p>
<p>you could do just as well (actually better) with 1 machine &#038; a big HDD to store your apps &#038; data.</p>
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		<title>By: TateJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TateJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Very cool article Kevin.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been experimenting with using a Q1 (original 900mhz Q1 upgraded to 2 gigs of ram) as my primary tablet for note taking and inking.  I&#039;m finding that the vectoring is a real problem for me.  I just can&#039;t find a way to rest my palm without my handwriting becoming unreadable.  I not evening trying to convert it to text, I just want to be able to read it.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Any suggestions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW, I just tried the office apps at acrobat.com.  They work pretty well, but no offline mode yet. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Very cool article Kevin.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been experimenting with using a Q1 (original 900mhz Q1 upgraded to 2 gigs of ram) as my primary tablet for note taking and inking.  I&#8217;m finding that the vectoring is a real problem for me.  I just can&#8217;t find a way to rest my palm without my handwriting becoming unreadable.  I not evening trying to convert it to text, I just want to be able to read it.  </p>
<p>Any suggestions.</p>
<p>BTW, I just tried the office apps at acrobat.com.  They work pretty well, but no offline mode yet. </p>
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		<title>By: jkkmobile</title>
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		<dc:creator>jkkmobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Eee 901 has the best size/weight/performance/batterylife ratio..&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You know how the keyboard is, as it&#039;s the same as on your Eee 700...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Well&#8230;</p>
<p>Eee 901 has the best size/weight/performance/batterylife ratio..</p>
<p>You know how the keyboard is, as it&#8217;s the same as on your Eee 700&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dennisvjames</title>
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		<dc:creator>dennisvjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;also, sorry to be off comment, but you were using some podcasting software in your youtube video about the Q1UP and I couldn&#039;t hear the software product&#039;s name...what was it?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>also, sorry to be off comment, but you were using some podcasting software in your youtube video about the Q1UP and I couldn&#8217;t hear the software product&#8217;s name&#8230;what was it?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Zatz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Zatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I&#039;m also trying to downsize and recently ebayed my Vista Media Center. Right now my only computer is a MacBook Pro (which belongs to my employer). I&#039;m thinking 24&quot; iMac for desk and one of these Dell, Lenevo, etc 10&quot; laptops for mobile stuff. Kevin&#039;s a beast, but I just can&#039;t function without a built in keyboard and have no desire to lug an accessory along. Maybe Apple will finally give in an provide a 12&quot; (or less) laptop...&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I&#8217;m also trying to downsize and recently ebayed my Vista Media Center. Right now my only computer is a MacBook Pro (which belongs to my employer). I&#8217;m thinking 24&#8243; iMac for desk and one of these Dell, Lenevo, etc 10&#8243; laptops for mobile stuff. Kevin&#8217;s a beast, but I just can&#8217;t function without a built in keyboard and have no desire to lug an accessory along. Maybe Apple will finally give in an provide a 12&#8243; (or less) laptop&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Yeah, but how do these things perform when running Flash 9 applications?  Have you really tested out multiple sites that use Flash 9 as their base?  I have and they stink.  100% utilization at times.  I love the form factor but hate the performance..... and battery life....  What happens when Flash 10 comes out?  As background, I am using MSI Wind.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Yeah, but how do these things perform when running Flash 9 applications?  Have you really tested out multiple sites that use Flash 9 as their base?  I have and they stink.  100% utilization at times.  I love the form factor but hate the performance&#8230;.. and battery life&#8230;.  What happens when Flash 10 comes out?  As background, I am using MSI Wind.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I see.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That being the case, I&#039;d really take a look at the keyboards before purchasing. For a primary device, to me, that&#039;s the most important feature of these netbooks. I only say this because I&#039;ve been on both sides of this coin, and when it&#039;s bad, it&#039;s really bad.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Currently, I use and HP Mininote. As James has said, the keyboard is excellent. I use mine 8 hours a day with no adverse affects.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I moved to this machine from the Eee Pc. The primary reason being, the keyboard on the Eee Pc was giving me some pretty bad RSI problems. These small keyboards make it so you have to contort your hands in an unnatural way. The negative affect it can have on your hands and forearms can be pretty drastic.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, keep that in mind on your search.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Battery-wise, I get about two hours out of mine. That&#039;s with the slim three cell battery. HP claims you can get 4.5 out of the 6 cell, but we all know how accurate manufacturer specs can be.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To me, this HP isn&#039;t the be all end all of mobile computing. But, because of the keyboard, it has me in a position where I don&#039;t feel the need to upgrade.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I see.</p>
<p>That being the case, I&#8217;d really take a look at the keyboards before purchasing. For a primary device, to me, that&#8217;s the most important feature of these netbooks. I only say this because I&#8217;ve been on both sides of this coin, and when it&#8217;s bad, it&#8217;s really bad.</p>
<p>Currently, I use and HP Mininote. As James has said, the keyboard is excellent. I use mine 8 hours a day with no adverse affects.</p>
<p>I moved to this machine from the Eee Pc. The primary reason being, the keyboard on the Eee Pc was giving me some pretty bad RSI problems. These small keyboards make it so you have to contort your hands in an unnatural way. The negative affect it can have on your hands and forearms can be pretty drastic.</p>
<p>So, keep that in mind on your search.</p>
<p>Battery-wise, I get about two hours out of mine. That&#8217;s with the slim three cell battery. HP claims you can get 4.5 out of the 6 cell, but we all know how accurate manufacturer specs can be.</p>
<p>To me, this HP isn&#8217;t the be all end all of mobile computing. But, because of the keyboard, it has me in a position where I don&#8217;t feel the need to upgrade.</p>
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