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		<title>By: Luscious</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/08/11/what-are-you-wi/#comment-4682</link>
		<dc:creator>Luscious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m a full-blown notebook junkie, but used to the desktop experience. To that end, I&#039;ve been torn between the 17&quot; models that offer the wuxga goodness and the more portable 8.9&quot;-12&quot; models with the battery life for going the long mile.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Granted, I&#039;m so used to the numpad and screen real-estate of the 17&quot;, I frequently game and do a lot of CPU-heavy tasks that for 99% of the time my laptop is &quot;anchored&quot;. Also, since I&#039;m at a desk or table when I&#039;m using it, and only carry it seldom (from table to table) so the 7-9 lbs weight is not a factor.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The point I&#039;m getting at is - I&#039;ve yet to see a 17&quot; notebook out there that offers the double-stacked external batteries that you find on smaller models. A 16-cell battery combined with a 32-cell slab battery would provide the extra power that would be ideal for a 17&quot; laptop, and let you use it places where there&#039;s no AC plug in sight. So many times I&#039;ve wanted to take my 17&quot; to spots where I could set it down to use, but the lack of AC and limited battery kept me from enjoying the power and luxury that my 17&quot; offers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, HP has options like this for their business models with 12+ hour runtimes, but none yet for consumers. Yet I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not the only person out there that has a notebook that is 1.) kept on a desk most of the time 2.) has the performance they need 3.) could definitely use it in places where there&#039;s no AC, and 4.) would most benefit from a 24-cell reserve of battery power.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Perhaps if I had the knowledge, I&#039;d put a li-ion pack together myself. A few extra pounds of battery would allow you to use that 17&quot; beast in so many more places, and so much more LONGER!!! Why doesn&#039;t somebody realize this potential?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m a full-blown notebook junkie, but used to the desktop experience. To that end, I&#8217;ve been torn between the 17&#8243; models that offer the wuxga goodness and the more portable 8.9&#8243;-12&#8243; models with the battery life for going the long mile.</p>
<p>Granted, I&#8217;m so used to the numpad and screen real-estate of the 17&#8243;, I frequently game and do a lot of CPU-heavy tasks that for 99% of the time my laptop is &#8220;anchored&#8221;. Also, since I&#8217;m at a desk or table when I&#8217;m using it, and only carry it seldom (from table to table) so the 7-9 lbs weight is not a factor.  </p>
<p>The point I&#8217;m getting at is &#8211; I&#8217;ve yet to see a 17&#8243; notebook out there that offers the double-stacked external batteries that you find on smaller models. A 16-cell battery combined with a 32-cell slab battery would provide the extra power that would be ideal for a 17&#8243; laptop, and let you use it places where there&#8217;s no AC plug in sight. So many times I&#8217;ve wanted to take my 17&#8243; to spots where I could set it down to use, but the lack of AC and limited battery kept me from enjoying the power and luxury that my 17&#8243; offers.</p>
<p>Yes, HP has options like this for their business models with 12+ hour runtimes, but none yet for consumers. Yet I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not the only person out there that has a notebook that is 1.) kept on a desk most of the time 2.) has the performance they need 3.) could definitely use it in places where there&#8217;s no AC, and 4.) would most benefit from a 24-cell reserve of battery power.</p>
<p>Perhaps if I had the knowledge, I&#8217;d put a li-ion pack together myself. A few extra pounds of battery would allow you to use that 17&#8243; beast in so many more places, and so much more LONGER!!! Why doesn&#8217;t somebody realize this potential?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/08/11/what-are-you-wi/#comment-4684</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is Tyrany of the &quot;Or&quot;.  I&#039;m not sure the question is whether I should choose my laptop or my mobile phone or a netbook.  More likely we&#039;ll be deciding that we need all these things and will choose which we use for a specific task.  OTOH, I think there is a category between laptop and mobile phone that&#039;s not been addressed.  That&#039;s where the netbook and a bunch of other choices try to fill the gap but don&#039;t in my opinion mostly because they try to replace the laptop or the mobile phone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wrote this up a few weeks back here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.msdn.com/benriga/archive/2008/07/23/my-next-gadget-i-wish.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.msdn.com/benriga/archive/2008/07/23/my-next-gadget-i-wish.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>This is Tyrany of the &#8220;Or&#8221;.  I&#8217;m not sure the question is whether I should choose my laptop or my mobile phone or a netbook.  More likely we&#8217;ll be deciding that we need all these things and will choose which we use for a specific task.  OTOH, I think there is a category between laptop and mobile phone that&#8217;s not been addressed.  That&#8217;s where the netbook and a bunch of other choices try to fill the gap but don&#8217;t in my opinion mostly because they try to replace the laptop or the mobile phone.</p>
<p>Wrote this up a few weeks back here:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/benriga/archive/2008/07/23/my-next-gadget-i-wish.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.msdn.com/benriga/archive/2008/07/23/my-next-gadget-i-wish.aspx</a>
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		<title>By: Roveit</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/08/11/what-are-you-wi/#comment-4687</link>
		<dc:creator>Roveit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I tried an HTC advantage, loved the screen but the magnetic keyboard or getting out a folding keyboard too much hassle.&lt;br /&gt;
The redfly looks great but with an enterprise focus.&lt;br /&gt;
I just want my non enterprise life in a device which is what a Windows Mobile device can pretty much do now thanks to 10 odd years of software development but give me a bigger screen, a decent keyboard and the big one - instant on. &lt;br /&gt;
Come on Microsoft wake up! You have the product just needs the deployment.&lt;br /&gt;
Windows Mobile running on an Asus 900 with an arm processor - simple and maybe saleable too.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I tried an HTC advantage, loved the screen but the magnetic keyboard or getting out a folding keyboard too much hassle.<br />
The redfly looks great but with an enterprise focus.<br />
I just want my non enterprise life in a device which is what a Windows Mobile device can pretty much do now thanks to 10 odd years of software development but give me a bigger screen, a decent keyboard and the big one &#8211; instant on. <br />
Come on Microsoft wake up! You have the product just needs the deployment.<br />
Windows Mobile running on an Asus 900 with an arm processor &#8211; simple and maybe saleable too.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie W.</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/08/11/what-are-you-wi/#comment-4690</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;My HTC Advantage has been my constant companion for almost a year now.  I&#039;ve been pretty faithful, not really looking askance or lusting after other devices (though the iPhone did tempt me, I resisted).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m most interested in the Redfly, though, &#039;cause I&#039;ve been watching for a very thin notebook/slimbook that would run Windows Mobile.  WM seems to do everything I need: surf the web (Opera), watch movies (CorePlayer), play music (PocketPlayer or Windows Media Player), and use MS Office documents (SoftMaker Office).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Redfly could be a good way to get WM on a laptop-like device with very long battery life and without running XP or Vista or Linux and their attendant viruses and other issues (for now, anyway).&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>My HTC Advantage has been my constant companion for almost a year now.  I&#8217;ve been pretty faithful, not really looking askance or lusting after other devices (though the iPhone did tempt me, I resisted).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m most interested in the Redfly, though, &#8217;cause I&#8217;ve been watching for a very thin notebook/slimbook that would run Windows Mobile.  WM seems to do everything I need: surf the web (Opera), watch movies (CorePlayer), play music (PocketPlayer or Windows Media Player), and use MS Office documents (SoftMaker Office).</p>
<p>The Redfly could be a good way to get WM on a laptop-like device with very long battery life and without running XP or Vista or Linux and their attendant viruses and other issues (for now, anyway).
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		<title>By: Corrupted Mind</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/08/11/what-are-you-wi/#comment-4692</link>
		<dc:creator>Corrupted Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Basically, I still look at the original proposed spec of the Origami and think that they may have been on to something - i.e. a good compromise between mobility and function. The problem being that MS were not able to hold onto the OEM&#039;s attention long enough to deliver the killer product. A few quick points on specific issues.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Battery: We&#039;re still not any closer to the 7/8hr holy grail. In fact, seeing the poll on Chippy&#039;s site recently and the fact that 7/8hrs wasn&#039;t even a choice illustrates the size of the failure. The Atom and Via&#039;s new chip have not solved the problem - I think its time for OEM&#039;s to look at this problem more holistically.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;GUI/OS: XP and Vista are no match for the touch experience on the iphone/touch. I feel like Apple have the right GUI on the wrong device and that XP/Vista while giving me the full MS experience is still just a laptop OS on a smaller device. If Apple offered me the touch/iphone OS for my Q1 - &quot;officially&quot; - I would make the transition and I&#039;m sure many others would follow.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Tablet/Keyboard: I find it funny that many of the ppl who original frowned at me for going keyboard-less on my UMPC now rave about going keypad-less on a iPhone/Touch. I think Apple have shown conclusively that ppl are ready for touch if done properly. I can&#039;t help but find it frustrating how much better the keyboard interface is with the Apple Products than with dialkeys on my Q1. I think this argument between consumers/OEM&#039;s/developers ruined the Origami concept and is a major fail for MS who provided the OS in the first place. That said, I&#039;d like to think that this argument helped create the space for MIDs and the netbooks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Weight: Again ppl laugh at me for banging this particular drum constantly, but if you want someone to hold a device in their hands for a couple of hours - 1KG is too much. I can remember how mobile phones marched to below 100g and I feel like the UMPC needed to march at at least sub 500g before a real impact would be made.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Strangely enough I&#039;ve compromised on all of these for my mobile experience but it doesn&#039;t stop me wishing that OEM&#039;s will focus on these to deliver a better mobile solution.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Basically, I still look at the original proposed spec of the Origami and think that they may have been on to something &#8211; i.e. a good compromise between mobility and function. The problem being that MS were not able to hold onto the OEM&#8217;s attention long enough to deliver the killer product. A few quick points on specific issues.</p>
<p>Battery: We&#8217;re still not any closer to the 7/8hr holy grail. In fact, seeing the poll on Chippy&#8217;s site recently and the fact that 7/8hrs wasn&#8217;t even a choice illustrates the size of the failure. The Atom and Via&#8217;s new chip have not solved the problem &#8211; I think its time for OEM&#8217;s to look at this problem more holistically.</p>
<p>GUI/OS: XP and Vista are no match for the touch experience on the iphone/touch. I feel like Apple have the right GUI on the wrong device and that XP/Vista while giving me the full MS experience is still just a laptop OS on a smaller device. If Apple offered me the touch/iphone OS for my Q1 &#8211; &#8220;officially&#8221; &#8211; I would make the transition and I&#8217;m sure many others would follow.</p>
<p>Tablet/Keyboard: I find it funny that many of the ppl who original frowned at me for going keyboard-less on my UMPC now rave about going keypad-less on a iPhone/Touch. I think Apple have shown conclusively that ppl are ready for touch if done properly. I can&#8217;t help but find it frustrating how much better the keyboard interface is with the Apple Products than with dialkeys on my Q1. I think this argument between consumers/OEM&#8217;s/developers ruined the Origami concept and is a major fail for MS who provided the OS in the first place. That said, I&#8217;d like to think that this argument helped create the space for MIDs and the netbooks.</p>
<p>Weight: Again ppl laugh at me for banging this particular drum constantly, but if you want someone to hold a device in their hands for a couple of hours &#8211; 1KG is too much. I can remember how mobile phones marched to below 100g and I feel like the UMPC needed to march at at least sub 500g before a real impact would be made.</p>
<p>Strangely enough I&#8217;ve compromised on all of these for my mobile experience but it doesn&#8217;t stop me wishing that OEM&#8217;s will focus on these to deliver a better mobile solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Summers</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/08/11/what-are-you-wi/#comment-4693</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve had an Acer Aspire One for a few weeks now. I didn&#039;t much like Linpus, but now that I have XP running on it, I like it a LOT. It&#039;s small enough to take with you when you wouldn&#039;t take a full size laptop. Yet it can do almost all the same jobs. I wouldn&#039;t have it as my only computer, but it fills a niche that&#039;s very useful to me. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I&#8217;ve had an Acer Aspire One for a few weeks now. I didn&#8217;t much like Linpus, but now that I have XP running on it, I like it a LOT. It&#8217;s small enough to take with you when you wouldn&#8217;t take a full size laptop. Yet it can do almost all the same jobs. I wouldn&#8217;t have it as my only computer, but it fills a niche that&#8217;s very useful to me. </p>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;My EeePC 702 was and my new 1000H is one of my toys that just happens to do navagation in my car, plays movies and what have you.  I am not a touch typist so the keyboard isn&#039;t all that important.  I&#039;m not a gamer so processing and graphics power are not important to me.  The ability to watch movies or surf from the couch or the backyard is important.  I do have a Touch that I use for watching video podcasts while I am sitting in a waiting room as I do twice a week as part of my volunteer work.  I also have a mobile phone that is just a phone with a not very good camera.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>My EeePC 702 was and my new 1000H is one of my toys that just happens to do navagation in my car, plays movies and what have you.  I am not a touch typist so the keyboard isn&#8217;t all that important.  I&#8217;m not a gamer so processing and graphics power are not important to me.  The ability to watch movies or surf from the couch or the backyard is important.  I do have a Touch that I use for watching video podcasts while I am sitting in a waiting room as I do twice a week as part of my volunteer work.  I also have a mobile phone that is just a phone with a not very good camera.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Are you talking about cheaper devices like the Asus Eee PC because the Sony UX-series certainly doesN&#039;T fit the niche of cheaper alternatives that you mention.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Are you talking about cheaper devices like the Asus Eee PC because the Sony UX-series certainly doesN&#8217;T fit the niche of cheaper alternatives that you mention.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;What does Apple offer that comes close to a 7&quot; display-based netbook?  The iPhone/iPod Touch?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sony, sure.  They&#039;ve got the UX, the old U-series, and arguably the T-series.  Lenovo&#039;s even dipping into both the MID and Netbook spaces.  Apple, though?  Really?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple&#039;s got this huge, nasty divide between the iPhone and the MacBook Air that I&#039;d describe as a wasteland.  There&#039;s just nothing at all there, and in many cases, footprint counts for more than thickness.  Currently, I can&#039;t really fit a rigid manila envelope in my bag, so the MBA actually *fails* to provide adequate mobility.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would LOVE a proper small-footprint ultralight from Apple, but it doesn&#039;t exist, and jacking up the price on a slimmed down MacBook just isn&#039;t going to do the trick for me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>What does Apple offer that comes close to a 7&#8243; display-based netbook?  The iPhone/iPod Touch?</p>
<p>Sony, sure.  They&#8217;ve got the UX, the old U-series, and arguably the T-series.  Lenovo&#8217;s even dipping into both the MID and Netbook spaces.  Apple, though?  Really?</p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s got this huge, nasty divide between the iPhone and the MacBook Air that I&#8217;d describe as a wasteland.  There&#8217;s just nothing at all there, and in many cases, footprint counts for more than thickness.  Currently, I can&#8217;t really fit a rigid manila envelope in my bag, so the MBA actually *fails* to provide adequate mobility.</p>
<p>I would LOVE a proper small-footprint ultralight from Apple, but it doesn&#8217;t exist, and jacking up the price on a slimmed down MacBook just isn&#8217;t going to do the trick for me.</p>
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