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		<title>By: Rommel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/04/the-case-for-in/#comment-43422</link>
		<dc:creator>Rommel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I would love to see a netbook 3G ( up to UMTS/HSDPA speeds) where you can just insert any SIM card of your choice so that you wont get stuck with monthly fees/high price services. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;also this way, you wont need to plug-in anything (i.e USB 3G modem) and there would be no other devices sticking out. Just your plain Netbook.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>I would love to see a netbook 3G ( up to UMTS/HSDPA speeds) where you can just insert any SIM card of your choice so that you wont get stuck with monthly fees/high price services. </p>
<p>also this way, you wont need to plug-in anything (i.e USB 3G modem) and there would be no other devices sticking out. Just your plain Netbook.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Dale</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/04/the-case-for-in/#comment-3386</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;James: It would be a moot point if ALL of your devices had integrated 3G as I only wish they did.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m in the UK and I use a Pay as you go T-Mobile SIM card.  If I don&#039;t use it it costs me nothing, if I use it it costs me a maximum of £1 per day. If I buy a &quot;5 day pass&quot; (just by texting WEB to 441 from my laptop) it costs me .50p per day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Its UMTS/ HSDPA and I get speeds of around 1.8mbps.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d happily put SIM cards like this in 5 different devices if I had them!  Then whichever one I pick up in the morning gets the £1 of credit spent for that day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course if I was going to use a particular device on 3g every single day I could go for a contract SIM for around £15 a month from T-Mobile.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I use a Fujitsu Siemens P1610 with integrated 3g.  I&#039;d like to switch to an Acer Aspire or similar at some point but until they have integrated 3g there is no way.  Its just too useful to have it onboard.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>James: It would be a moot point if ALL of your devices had integrated 3G as I only wish they did.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in the UK and I use a Pay as you go T-Mobile SIM card.  If I don&#8217;t use it it costs me nothing, if I use it it costs me a maximum of £1 per day. If I buy a &#8220;5 day pass&#8221; (just by texting WEB to 441 from my laptop) it costs me .50p per day.</p>
<p>Its UMTS/ HSDPA and I get speeds of around 1.8mbps.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d happily put SIM cards like this in 5 different devices if I had them!  Then whichever one I pick up in the morning gets the £1 of credit spent for that day.</p>
<p>Of course if I was going to use a particular device on 3g every single day I could go for a contract SIM for around £15 a month from T-Mobile.</p>
<p>I use a Fujitsu Siemens P1610 with integrated 3g.  I&#8217;d like to switch to an Acer Aspire or similar at some point but until they have integrated 3g there is no way.  Its just too useful to have it onboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Samir Shah</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/04/the-case-for-in/#comment-3387</link>
		<dc:creator>Samir Shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;It is the subsidy....stupid.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>It is the subsidy&#8230;.stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Goodwin</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/04/the-case-for-in/#comment-3388</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Goodwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I agree with the first poster that the &quot;case for integrated 3G&quot; totally misses the PRICE issue.  Costs me $20 a month to get FAST data with my tethered Verizon smart phone (Samsung 760)...and I can tether it to ANY DEVICE. This has been handy and I have tethered to netbooks and desktops alike.  Why would I pay over twice as much to be STUCK with one provider on my new netbook? &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I agree with the first poster that the &#8220;case for integrated 3G&#8221; totally misses the PRICE issue.  Costs me $20 a month to get FAST data with my tethered Verizon smart phone (Samsung 760)&#8230;and I can tether it to ANY DEVICE. This has been handy and I have tethered to netbooks and desktops alike.  Why would I pay over twice as much to be STUCK with one provider on my new netbook? </p>
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		<title>By: Travis Carnahan</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/04/the-case-for-in/#comment-3389</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Carnahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I have to take issue with your statement,&quot;we both change mobile devices like most folks change their socks&quot;. Since You guys change through multiple devices in one day, I&#039;m sure you go through many more devices in typical day than my one pair of socks! ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I have to take issue with your statement,&#8221;we both change mobile devices like most folks change their socks&#8221;. Since You guys change through multiple devices in one day, I&#8217;m sure you go through many more devices in typical day than my one pair of socks! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Luscious</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/04/the-case-for-in/#comment-3390</link>
		<dc:creator>Luscious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Those are all very good points James, but you&#039;re forgetting one thing - PRICE.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;$19.99 gets me unlimited data with my T-Mobile PDA over EDGE. Granted, it&#039;s not as fast as EVDO, but I have the luxury of tethering the device to any netbook/laptop and be online. When you need to just check your email or quickly get to a web page and can&#039;t get to a free wifi spot, it really does work great.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With integrated 3G I&#039;ll get faster speed. But I&#039;m STUCK WITH whatever provider&#039;s service works with the hardware inside - a problem if the device you&#039;re looking at requires an ATT service agreement and ATT happens to have no signal or poor service in your area. Likewise, I&#039;ll be paying at least $60-$80 and be subject to fees or throttling if I go over that 5GB allotment. Some providers do not have a cap if you open a business account.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Interestingly, T-Mobile is the only carrier right now that offers a no-strings unlimited data plan. It won&#039;t be EVDO, just EDGE, you&#039;ll need a card slot or adapter and the plan price will set you back $39.99.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Convenience is cool. But having to pay the price for that convenience is not cool.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Those are all very good points James, but you&#8217;re forgetting one thing &#8211; PRICE.</p>
<p>$19.99 gets me unlimited data with my T-Mobile PDA over EDGE. Granted, it&#8217;s not as fast as EVDO, but I have the luxury of tethering the device to any netbook/laptop and be online. When you need to just check your email or quickly get to a web page and can&#8217;t get to a free wifi spot, it really does work great.</p>
<p>With integrated 3G I&#8217;ll get faster speed. But I&#8217;m STUCK WITH whatever provider&#8217;s service works with the hardware inside &#8211; a problem if the device you&#8217;re looking at requires an ATT service agreement and ATT happens to have no signal or poor service in your area. Likewise, I&#8217;ll be paying at least $60-$80 and be subject to fees or throttling if I go over that 5GB allotment. Some providers do not have a cap if you open a business account.</p>
<p>Interestingly, T-Mobile is the only carrier right now that offers a no-strings unlimited data plan. It won&#8217;t be EVDO, just EDGE, you&#8217;ll need a card slot or adapter and the plan price will set you back $39.99.</p>
<p>Convenience is cool. But having to pay the price for that convenience is not cool.</p>
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