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		<title>By: Daniel Breslauer</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/08/minimum-runtime/#comment-60732</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Breslauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mine (MSI Wind U100 Plus) also has a 4400 mAh battery. I bought an additional one, which fortunately wasn&#039;t any problem, they were fully stocked. Well, almost fully at this specific store - I got a black one for my white netbook, but I don&#039;t really care about the color.

Running Windows 7 Ultimate with Basic theme and using 3G (UMTS) access, but in Power Saver mode, I get exactly 3 hours. Not too impressive, which is why I got an additional battery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine (MSI Wind U100 Plus) also has a 4400 mAh battery. I bought an additional one, which fortunately wasn&#8217;t any problem, they were fully stocked. Well, almost fully at this specific store &#8211; I got a black one for my white netbook, but I don&#8217;t really care about the color.</p>
<p>Running Windows 7 Ultimate with Basic theme and using 3G (UMTS) access, but in Power Saver mode, I get exactly 3 hours. Not too impressive, which is why I got an additional battery.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnKerr</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/08/minimum-runtime/#comment-44481</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnKerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Kevin is lucky. His six cell was a 5200mAh, while my new wind got only a 4400mAH.

Does anyone know why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Kevin is lucky. His six cell was a 5200mAh, while my new wind got only a 4400mAH.</p>
<p>Does anyone know why?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Dale</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/08/minimum-runtime/#comment-3227</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Kevin,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have bought a 6 cell battery for my Advent 4211 (MSI Wind from PC World in the UK) and I&#039;ve noticed that it is a 4400mAH battery, not 5200mAH as yours seems to be.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What a shame!  That&#039;s something to beware of I guess.  It seems that the extended 6 cell batteries available in the UK from places like here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.supergps.co.uk/extended-battery-for-msi-wind-u100-btys11-4400mah-black-p-3641.html?gad=CMDIu8kDEgg-s_Nh2Zr1URiY3OT-AyCY9p4z&amp;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.supergps.co.uk/extended-battery-for-msi-wind-u100-btys11-4400mah-black-p-3641.html?gad=CMDIu8kDEgg-s_Nh2Zr1URiY3OT-AyCY9p4z&amp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are not 5200mAH hour batteries as they might be elsewhere.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kevin,</p>
<p>I have bought a 6 cell battery for my Advent 4211 (MSI Wind from PC World in the UK) and I&#8217;ve noticed that it is a 4400mAH battery, not 5200mAH as yours seems to be.</p>
<p>What a shame!  That&#8217;s something to beware of I guess.  It seems that the extended 6 cell batteries available in the UK from places like here: <a href="http://www.supergps.co.uk/extended-battery-for-msi-wind-u100-btys11-4400mah-black-p-3641.html?gad=CMDIu8kDEgg-s_Nh2Zr1URiY3OT-AyCY9p4z&#038;" rel="nofollow">http://www.supergps.co.uk/extended-battery-for-msi-wind-u100-btys11-4400mah-black-p-3641.html?gad=CMDIu8kDEgg-s_Nh2Zr1URiY3OT-AyCY9p4z&#038;</a></p>
<p>Are not 5200mAH hour batteries as they might be elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: gordon</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/08/minimum-runtime/#comment-3228</link>
		<dc:creator>gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;hi kevin,&lt;br /&gt;
  In MTR147 you said that you installed OSX in the MSI Wind.&lt;br /&gt;
Was it hard?&lt;br /&gt;
Did you get full functionality?&lt;br /&gt;
Estimated battery time?&lt;br /&gt;
thanks&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>hi kevin,<br />
  In MTR147 you said that you installed OSX in the MSI Wind.<br />
Was it hard?<br />
Did you get full functionality?<br />
Estimated battery time?<br />
thanks
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		<title>By: orangeek</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/08/minimum-runtime/#comment-3229</link>
		<dc:creator>orangeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thank you for the answer, Kevin!&lt;br /&gt;
Maybbe I&#039;ll get one when in the US for travel (exploiting the value of Euros in these days is awesome! :).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;btw, my nick is orangeek, not orangegeek. :P&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Thank you for the answer, Kevin!<br />
Maybbe I&#8217;ll get one when in the US for travel (exploiting the value of Euros in these days is awesome! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>btw, my nick is orangeek, not orangegeek. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JeffHoust</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/08/minimum-runtime/#comment-3240</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffHoust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i ALMOST bought 1 recently as well but because of the shortage problem it fell through. now i&#039;m glad it did, i found out a couple days ago from an MSI rep that they will be releasing the dual-core Atom version in October.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;sorry i dont have anything to prove it but supposedly it isnt a big secret, apparently Intel is planning to release the dual-core Atom to ODM&#039;s at the end of Sept. he told me the design will stay the same it will just be a new CPU &amp; maybe most importantly a NEW chipset. the battery life shouldnt be affected hardly at all as the cores dynamically shut off &amp; adjust speed per the current demand.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i ALMOST bought 1 recently as well but because of the shortage problem it fell through. now i&#8217;m glad it did, i found out a couple days ago from an MSI rep that they will be releasing the dual-core Atom version in October.</p>
<p>sorry i dont have anything to prove it but supposedly it isnt a big secret, apparently Intel is planning to release the dual-core Atom to ODM&#8217;s at the end of Sept. he told me the design will stay the same it will just be a new CPU &#038; maybe most importantly a NEW chipset. the battery life shouldnt be affected hardly at all as the cores dynamically shut off &#038; adjust speed per the current demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/08/minimum-runtime/#comment-3242</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Thanks for the battery testing, Kevin.  I&#039;m seriously considering a 6-cell Wind -- the only problem is I&#039;ve read several places that the new Sentelic(?) touchpad they use is junk.  How did you end up with a 6-cell with the Synaptics pad?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Thanks for the battery testing, Kevin.  I&#8217;m seriously considering a 6-cell Wind &#8212; the only problem is I&#8217;ve read several places that the new Sentelic(?) touchpad they use is junk.  How did you end up with a 6-cell with the Synaptics pad?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/08/minimum-runtime/#comment-3243</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Thanks for the battery testing, Kevin.  I&#039;m seriously considering a 6-cell Wind -- the only problem is I&#039;ve read several places that the new Sentelic(?) touchpad they use is junk.  How did you end up with a 6-cell with the Synaptics pad?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Thanks for the battery testing, Kevin.  I&#8217;m seriously considering a 6-cell Wind &#8212; the only problem is I&#8217;ve read several places that the new Sentelic(?) touchpad they use is junk.  How did you end up with a 6-cell with the Synaptics pad?</p>
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		<title>By: BlastCran</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/08/minimum-runtime/#comment-3245</link>
		<dc:creator>BlastCran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mugen will probably be making a 6-cell also. i would probably get a backup 1 from them instead, most likely it would be higher cap &amp; cheaper than anything the OEM would produce. seriously, GOOD LUCK finding a 2nd 6-cell battery MSI, and if you do good luck finding a vendor that wont rip you off to get it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i know it&#039;s scary to try new things, but Mugens rep is fantastic to say the least. anybody involved in the PDA world is well versed on them. time after time when major OEM&#039;s like Dell/HP would fail producing small batteries &amp; greatly overcharge for their replacements, Mugen would step in creating something far better &amp; usually cheaper as well.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mugen will probably be making a 6-cell also. i would probably get a backup 1 from them instead, most likely it would be higher cap &#038; cheaper than anything the OEM would produce. seriously, GOOD LUCK finding a 2nd 6-cell battery MSI, and if you do good luck finding a vendor that wont rip you off to get it.</p>
<p>i know it&#8217;s scary to try new things, but Mugens rep is fantastic to say the least. anybody involved in the PDA world is well versed on them. time after time when major OEM&#8217;s like Dell/HP would fail producing small batteries &#038; greatly overcharge for their replacements, Mugen would step in creating something far better &#038; usually cheaper as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/08/minimum-runtime/#comment-3247</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;orangegeek: I can&#039;t say for sure yet what the battery life would be with Linux, but my estimate would be that runtime would minimally be the same, possibly up to 15% more. I&#039;m basing that solely on my battery comparisons between Linux &amp; XP on prior devices. Thanks to you and Chris for the kind words!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Michael, thanks for the info on the Asus Super Hybrid Engine. That 1.2 GHz underclocking might be a good &quot;sweet spot compromise&quot; between performance and battery life.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Tolbeir, I think I&#039;d personally opt for a second 6-cell battery from MSI. I like how well it fits the device and between the two batteries, I&#039;d have  10 to 11 hours of runtime. Just a personal preference; many would be happy with a 9-cell of course.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>orangegeek: I can&#8217;t say for sure yet what the battery life would be with Linux, but my estimate would be that runtime would minimally be the same, possibly up to 15% more. I&#8217;m basing that solely on my battery comparisons between Linux &#038; XP on prior devices. Thanks to you and Chris for the kind words!</p>
<p>Michael, thanks for the info on the Asus Super Hybrid Engine. That 1.2 GHz underclocking might be a good &#8220;sweet spot compromise&#8221; between performance and battery life.</p>
<p>Tolbeir, I think I&#8217;d personally opt for a second 6-cell battery from MSI. I like how well it fits the device and between the two batteries, I&#8217;d have  10 to 11 hours of runtime. Just a personal preference; many would be happy with a 9-cell of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Tolbeir</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/08/minimum-runtime/#comment-3249</link>
		<dc:creator>Tolbeir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;awesome stuff, i was expecting at least 5 hours as well. the problem is the 6-cell Winds are kinda hard to find.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i have been considering just getting the 3-cell Wind and adding the new 9-cell Mugen 7800mah battery when it comes out next month, can you imagine the runtime on that?! but 1st i am waiting for them to release a pic of how it looks. they do make excellent batteries though that ALWAYS exceed original OEM batteries. there is a gigantic thread going on over at msiwind.net about it&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.msiwind.net/external-devices/mugen-power-produce-3rd-party-battery-for-wind-poll-t2369.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://forums.msiwind.net/external-devices/mugen-power-produce-3rd-party-battery-for-wind-poll-t2369.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>awesome stuff, i was expecting at least 5 hours as well. the problem is the 6-cell Winds are kinda hard to find.</p>
<p>i have been considering just getting the 3-cell Wind and adding the new 9-cell Mugen 7800mah battery when it comes out next month, can you imagine the runtime on that?! but 1st i am waiting for them to release a pic of how it looks. they do make excellent batteries though that ALWAYS exceed original OEM batteries. there is a gigantic thread going on over at msiwind.net about it</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.msiwind.net/external-devices/mugen-power-produce-3rd-party-battery-for-wind-poll-t2369.html" rel="nofollow">http://forums.msiwind.net/external-devices/mugen-power-produce-3rd-party-battery-for-wind-poll-t2369.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Connick</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/09/08/minimum-runtime/#comment-3251</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Connick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yes, the Asus Eee 1000h does overclock the Atom processor in super-performance mode up to 1.8Ghz. So you run it at 1.2, 1.6, or 1.8Ghz just by pressing the Super Hybrid Engine button on the top of the device. In automatic power-saving mode it alternates between 1.2 and 1.6Ghz depending on whether it is plugged in or running off the battery.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Michael&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Yes, the Asus Eee 1000h does overclock the Atom processor in super-performance mode up to 1.8Ghz. So you run it at 1.2, 1.6, or 1.8Ghz just by pressing the Super Hybrid Engine button on the top of the device. In automatic power-saving mode it alternates between 1.2 and 1.6Ghz depending on whether it is plugged in or running off the battery.  </p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Is it worth it? Depends if you like being tied to a desk. I have the 6 cell MSI, and it&#039;s awesome. I don&#039;t actually get the results you&#039;ve posted, most like 4.5 hours on full battery use. I should be going half speed for what I&#039;m using this for.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m with orangeek, keep up the good work on your blog.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Is it worth it? Depends if you like being tied to a desk. I have the 6 cell MSI, and it&#8217;s awesome. I don&#8217;t actually get the results you&#8217;ve posted, most like 4.5 hours on full battery use. I should be going half speed for what I&#8217;m using this for.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with orangeek, keep up the good work on your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: orangeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>orangeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;kevin, do you have any idea how long can the battery last with linux on the Wind?&lt;br /&gt;
thank you (and PS: i love your blog!)&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>kevin, do you have any idea how long can the battery last with linux on the Wind?<br />
thank you (and PS: i love your blog!)</p>
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