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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/11/14/nokia-5800-xp-1/#comment-221</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;got to love seeing people go eye-candy crazy...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;its like junkies between highs...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>got to love seeing people go eye-candy crazy&#8230;</p>
<p>its like junkies between highs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cr0ft</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/11/14/nokia-5800-xp-1/#comment-232</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP3YNcSOMlg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP3YNcSOMlg&lt;/a&gt; has a video demo of it, I just spotted that one.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And at the risk of sounding like an adolescent, OMG! it&#039;s still Symbian-slow in places. Pauses in the OS as stuff loads, and changing from portrait to landscape took seconds. You&#039;d think Nokia would have learned already that people won&#039;t accept their handset slowing them down as much as they did pre-iPhone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sure, it&#039;s a leap from the Nokia E50 I had, which literally took seconds to register a keypress from time to time, but to me from what I&#039;m seeing, the 5800 still has a fairly unattractive interface and worst of all, nasty slowdowns.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Watching that video with it gradually redrawing the items on screen made me scoff loudly... which is bad, since I&#039;m here alone at the moment. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Again, may be just me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP3YNcSOMlg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP3YNcSOMlg</a> has a video demo of it, I just spotted that one.</p>
<p>And at the risk of sounding like an adolescent, OMG! it&#8217;s still Symbian-slow in places. Pauses in the OS as stuff loads, and changing from portrait to landscape took seconds. You&#8217;d think Nokia would have learned already that people won&#8217;t accept their handset slowing them down as much as they did pre-iPhone.</p>
<p>Sure, it&#8217;s a leap from the Nokia E50 I had, which literally took seconds to register a keypress from time to time, but to me from what I&#8217;m seeing, the 5800 still has a fairly unattractive interface and worst of all, nasty slowdowns.</p>
<p>Watching that video with it gradually redrawing the items on screen made me scoff loudly&#8230; which is bad, since I&#8217;m here alone at the moment. </p>
<p>Again, may be just me.</p>
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		<title>By: cr0ft</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/11/14/nokia-5800-xp-1/#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator>cr0ft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Symbian is facing the same uphill battle as Windows Mobile, taking an aging hodgepodge of an OS and making it into an exemplary touch-enabled star. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Frankly I doubt it can be done nearly as well as with the iPhone with its full-on Unix underpinnings and Apples graphical goodness on top. Symbian and WinMo are both examples of &quot;phone os&#039;es&quot; whereas the iPhone is really very powerful under the hood too and purpose created to be eminently touchable.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That said, the phone I&#039;m getting is the Touch HD... but thats just because there are some WinMo apps I use a lot and I want that superior screen for surfing, e-books and whatnot. The 5800 doesn&#039;t really have any such standout feature to me. My gut reaction is &quot;one more boring, semi-nasty Symbian phone with touchy pretensions&quot; rather than any feeling of techno-wow. Maybe that&#039;s just me. ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Guess we&#039;ll see. Nokia phones can usually sell anyway. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Symbian is facing the same uphill battle as Windows Mobile, taking an aging hodgepodge of an OS and making it into an exemplary touch-enabled star. </p>
<p>Frankly I doubt it can be done nearly as well as with the iPhone with its full-on Unix underpinnings and Apples graphical goodness on top. Symbian and WinMo are both examples of &#8220;phone os&#8217;es&#8221; whereas the iPhone is really very powerful under the hood too and purpose created to be eminently touchable.</p>
<p>That said, the phone I&#8217;m getting is the Touch HD&#8230; but thats just because there are some WinMo apps I use a lot and I want that superior screen for surfing, e-books and whatnot. The 5800 doesn&#8217;t really have any such standout feature to me. My gut reaction is &#8220;one more boring, semi-nasty Symbian phone with touchy pretensions&#8221; rather than any feeling of techno-wow. Maybe that&#8217;s just me. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Guess we&#8217;ll see. Nokia phones can usually sell anyway. </p>
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		<title>By: Rafe</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/11/14/nokia-5800-xp-1/#comment-234</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Kevin, yes I know what you mean. I found it awkward at first, but don&#039;t notice it now. I double tap without thinking for quick access. I do like the fact you can access other options quickly (especially in contacts... highlight contact choose action from options menu etc.). Look forward to reading how you get on :)&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Kevin, yes I know what you mean. I found it awkward at first, but don&#8217;t notice it now. I double tap without thinking for quick access. I do like the fact you can access other options quickly (especially in contacts&#8230; highlight contact choose action from options menu etc.). Look forward to reading how you get on <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/11/14/nokia-5800-xp-1/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Thanks Rafe. I get the &quot;why&quot; it is the way it is, but I don&#039;t find it to be optimal from the end-user experience just yet. My opinion, of course...&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Thanks Rafe. I get the &#8220;why&#8221; it is the way it is, but I don&#8217;t find it to be optimal from the end-user experience just yet. My opinion, of course&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rafe</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/11/14/nokia-5800-xp-1/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Kevin - the single / double tap thing is because it&#039;s a focus driven UI. In a list you have to select an item, and then tap it again for the action. I wrote some stuff about this on AAS. In other places it is a single tap.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Kevin &#8211; the single / double tap thing is because it&#8217;s a focus driven UI. In a list you have to select an item, and then tap it again for the action. I wrote some stuff about this on AAS. In other places it is a single tap.</p>
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		<title>By: vm-01</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2008/11/14/nokia-5800-xp-1/#comment-237</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Please pitty us fools with a video JK.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Please pitty us fools with a video JK.</p>
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