Comments on: Blackberry Storm OTA upgrade finally appears http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/ Using mobile devices since they weighed 30 lbs. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:54:39 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Alex http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/#comment-43364 Alex Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:36:58 +0000 http://jkontherun.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4#comment-43364 <p>That is one thing that really hasn't been discussed here yet... coverage quality. Verizon in the US is better overall than AT&T, at least for the moment. AT&T needed the Iphone badly for it's company to keep up with Verizon. The phone was one way to pull people on when they're service was still hard at work to catch up with VZW. I like the Iphone and the G1 and the Storm, all have good and bad. The Iphone had massive issues when released and I'm tired of all the Iphone trolls on these sites screaming about how inferior everything is to the Iphone, you think they were The Borg ("Resistance is futile"). People need to grow up and realize that different phones give different people in different areas of the world and country a choice for something that fits them and their needs. For instance, I don't play many games on my phone, don't really want to, so knowing that the apps for the iphone are a plenty with games... don't really care. There will be plenty of good apps for the Storm in good time. I also think both the Storm and the G1 will grow into amazing phones just like the Iphone did. I won't go with the Iphone because of issues I have that I personaly don't like, for instance the keyboard bothers me, and that I can't text in landscape (WTF is that about?), but mainly it's the fact that Verizon is by far a better service for data and phone calls. Of course this isn't true for every part of the country but for the most part a very true statement. It's unfortunate that Iphone isn't available with Verizon but it is what it is for now. I will buy a Storm, and I will find good and bad (like with any phone) and I will enjoy what it can do for me and the service that it will provide. My guess is just like the Iphone (still needing work in my opinion), it will be better on it's second release, but until then...</p> That is one thing that really hasn’t been discussed here yet… coverage quality. Verizon in the US is better overall than AT&T, at least for the moment. AT&T needed the Iphone badly for it’s company to keep up with Verizon. The phone was one way to pull people on when they’re service was still hard at work to catch up with VZW. I like the Iphone and the G1 and the Storm, all have good and bad. The Iphone had massive issues when released and I’m tired of all the Iphone trolls on these sites screaming about how inferior everything is to the Iphone, you think they were The Borg (“Resistance is futile”). People need to grow up and realize that different phones give different people in different areas of the world and country a choice for something that fits them and their needs. For instance, I don’t play many games on my phone, don’t really want to, so knowing that the apps for the iphone are a plenty with games… don’t really care. There will be plenty of good apps for the Storm in good time. I also think both the Storm and the G1 will grow into amazing phones just like the Iphone did. I won’t go with the Iphone because of issues I have that I personaly don’t like, for instance the keyboard bothers me, and that I can’t text in landscape (WTF is that about?), but mainly it’s the fact that Verizon is by far a better service for data and phone calls. Of course this isn’t true for every part of the country but for the most part a very true statement. It’s unfortunate that Iphone isn’t available with Verizon but it is what it is for now. I will buy a Storm, and I will find good and bad (like with any phone) and I will enjoy what it can do for me and the service that it will provide. My guess is just like the Iphone (still needing work in my opinion), it will be better on it’s second release, but until then…

]]> By: RonnB http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/#comment-43366 RonnB Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:04:09 +0000 http://jkontherun.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4#comment-43366 <p>In the S.F Bay area everyone I speak with who is is on AT&T (iPhone) has so many drop calls it is ridiculous...remember it is supposed to be a phone first. I would like to get a Storm or an IPhone but primarily I need reliable phone service.</p> In the S.F Bay area everyone I speak with who is is on AT&T (iPhone) has so many drop calls it is ridiculous…remember it is supposed to be a phone first. I would like to get a Storm or an IPhone but primarily I need reliable phone service.

]]> By: Paul, England, UK http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/#comment-43369 Paul, England, UK Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:51:24 +0000 http://jkontherun.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4#comment-43369 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <p>Hi Sam, just a small point in your reply, I never did say most of them are duplicates, as that is not so. Read my post again please. You come across as rather defensive! However you cannot deny many are dups :-) Also I am not anyone's fanboy. I own many Pocket PC's, a T-Mobile G1 and 2 iPhones. I love my iPhone 3g and my Touch HD. Never tried the Blackberry's myself so won't comment on them. Regards, Paul</p> </div>

Hi Sam, just a small point in your reply, I never did say most of them are duplicates, as that is not so. Read my post again please. You come across as rather defensive! However you cannot deny many are dups :-) Also I am not anyone’s fanboy. I own many Pocket PC’s, a T-Mobile G1 and 2 iPhones. I love my iPhone 3g and my Touch HD. Never tried the Blackberry’s myself so won’t comment on them. Regards, Paul

]]> By: Richard http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/#comment-43371 Richard Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:48:14 +0000 http://jkontherun.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4#comment-43371 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Sam, while the iPhone does have many desirable features you can't deny the fact that some people would be better served by a BB device. If you want to edit Word documents, Spread sheets, have multiple email accounts aggregated into one folder, want to cut and paste a link from web to insert into an email, etc. you would be better served by the BB. </p> <p>If you want to watch videos, surf the web, play games, etc. you would be better served by the iPhone. </p> <p>If you want to just make calls you might be better served by a RAZR. </p> <p>There will never be one phone that serves everyone. iPhone, BB, WM are great in their own ways. I've used them all. Every company were once the king of the hill. Palm was there then WM and BB took over and now Apple is having their time in the sun. Trust me, it's temporary. I use a 3G iPhone at this time but when the next king comes (or sooner since I'm starting to get tired of Safari resets and the closed universe. I want to be able to download podcasts over 3G), I'll jump to that without hesitation. None of these companies deserve such loyal undying devotion. </p> <p> </p></div>

Sam, while the iPhone does have many desirable features you can’t deny the fact that some people would be better served by a BB device. If you want to edit Word documents, Spread sheets, have multiple email accounts aggregated into one folder, want to cut and paste a link from web to insert into an email, etc. you would be better served by the BB.

If you want to watch videos, surf the web, play games, etc. you would be better served by the iPhone.

If you want to just make calls you might be better served by a RAZR.

There will never be one phone that serves everyone. iPhone, BB, WM are great in their own ways. I’ve used them all. Every company were once the king of the hill. Palm was there then WM and BB took over and now Apple is having their time in the sun. Trust me, it’s temporary. I use a 3G iPhone at this time but when the next king comes (or sooner since I’m starting to get tired of Safari resets and the closed universe. I want to be able to download podcasts over 3G), I’ll jump to that without hesitation. None of these companies deserve such loyal undying devotion.

]]> By: Todd http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/#comment-43372 Todd Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:31:34 +0000 http://jkontherun.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4#comment-43372 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <p>A comparison of iPhone to BB Storm isn't exactly apples to apples, but so what? This is one of the few sites where every comment or post doesn't degenerate into a "mine is better than yours" thing. As James and Kevin have said before, and I'll paraphrase: there is no one single device for everyone.</p> </div>

A comparison of iPhone to BB Storm isn’t exactly apples to apples, but so what? This is one of the few sites where every comment or post doesn’t degenerate into a “mine is better than yours” thing. As James and Kevin have said before, and I’ll paraphrase: there is no one single device for everyone.

]]> By: Sam http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/#comment-43373 Sam Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:22:44 +0000 http://jkontherun.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4#comment-43373 <p>@ Paul:</p> <p>At 11,286 iPhone apps it is nonsense to try and paint most of them as duplicates or useless that is the FANBOY answer to everything their favorite toy does not have. I assure you at 11,286 apps there are many many many more USEFUL apps than there are for the BB!!</p> <p>I point to many here:<br /> Multi-player games, FTP/WebDAV apps, hundreds of navigation apps, social apps like FaceBook, Pandora, Last.fm, BeeJive IM, VNC apps, text editing apps, voice dialers, Joost, voice controlled directions, wikipedia apps, network tools, VoIP apps like Skype via Fring & TruPhone, 1password, Wallet apps, AOL IM, AOL Radio, Internet radio apps, real time flight tracker, language translator apps, are NOT the type of iPhone apps I am talking about. BB users have no choices like this.</p> @ Paul:

At 11,286 iPhone apps it is nonsense to try and paint most of them as duplicates or useless that is the FANBOY answer to everything their favorite toy does not have. I assure you at 11,286 apps there are many many many more USEFUL apps than there are for the BB!!

I point to many here:
Multi-player games, FTP/WebDAV apps, hundreds of navigation apps, social apps like FaceBook, Pandora, Last.fm, BeeJive IM, VNC apps, text editing apps, voice dialers, Joost, voice controlled directions, wikipedia apps, network tools, VoIP apps like Skype via Fring & TruPhone, 1password, Wallet apps, AOL IM, AOL Radio, Internet radio apps, real time flight tracker, language translator apps, are NOT the type of iPhone apps I am talking about. BB users have no choices like this.

]]> By: yo http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/#comment-43375 yo Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:16:32 +0000 http://jkontherun.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4#comment-43375 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <p>my storm shuts off at least twice a day on its own and then i have to wait to reboot it. then i miss calls. does anyone else have this happen?</p> </div>

my storm shuts off at least twice a day on its own and then i have to wait to reboot it. then i miss calls. does anyone else have this happen?

]]> By: Paul, UK http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/#comment-43377 Paul, UK Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:31:58 +0000 http://jkontherun.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4#comment-43377 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <p>Sam, chill out Man! so the iPhone has more apps. How many of those are duplicates of the same type of app, i.e. tip calculators? :-)</p> </div>

Sam, chill out Man! so the iPhone has more apps. How many of those are duplicates of the same type of app, i.e. tip calculators? :-)

]]> By: VictorE http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/#comment-43378 VictorE Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:17:32 +0000 http://jkontherun.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4#comment-43378 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <p>i don't a storm, but i believe that you need to manually check for a upgrade.</p> </div>

i don’t a storm, but i believe that you need to manually check for a upgrade.

]]> By: Niik http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/#comment-43380 Niik Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:16:56 +0000 http://jkontherun.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4#comment-43380 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <p>IS it possible to upgrade the Bold device software over OTA?</p> </div>

IS it possible to upgrade the Bold device software over OTA?

]]> By: Sam http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/#comment-43382 Sam Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:03:37 +0000 http://jkontherun.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4#comment-43382 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>@ Lee:</p> <p>First of all I have a BB also and a Windows Mobile phone. Windows Mobile has a bit over 18,000 apps (all models combined), NOT FIVE times as many apps as the iPhone. In no time the iPhone will have much more apps than Windows Mobile as it has already topped 11,277 today that all run on one model iPhone platform. Since all the BB models combined have ONLY about 700 apps in all these years, it is significant to buyers. What good is a device without apps?</p> <p>Funny you mention Windows Mobile on a BB post. Maybe you missed it when both the iPhone and RIM both outsold Windows Mobile. As far as the iPhone being a "rip-off" of Windows Mobile, what the hell are you smoking? HAHA</p> <p>The iPhone is everything Windows Mobile isn't. The iPhone has very little in common with Windows Mobile except they are both mobile devices. I guess YOU think the iPhone is a rip-off of Alexander Graham Bell's first phone also? HAHA</p> <p>If you think that the Blackberry is a better device, I will let the marketplace decide. As they have so far selling over 16 million iPhones this year alone and outselling all of RIM! Doing this in only 15 months in the game. </p> <p>With the Storm having NO WiFi, LOCKED GPS, and little in the way of apps or a decent SDK for developers, all you have is a cell phone with email!</p></div>

@ Lee:

First of all I have a BB also and a Windows Mobile phone. Windows Mobile has a bit over 18,000 apps (all models combined), NOT FIVE times as many apps as the iPhone. In no time the iPhone will have much more apps than Windows Mobile as it has already topped 11,277 today that all run on one model iPhone platform. Since all the BB models combined have ONLY about 700 apps in all these years, it is significant to buyers. What good is a device without apps?

Funny you mention Windows Mobile on a BB post. Maybe you missed it when both the iPhone and RIM both outsold Windows Mobile. As far as the iPhone being a “rip-off” of Windows Mobile, what the hell are you smoking? HAHA

The iPhone is everything Windows Mobile isn’t. The iPhone has very little in common with Windows Mobile except they are both mobile devices. I guess YOU think the iPhone is a rip-off of Alexander Graham Bell’s first phone also? HAHA

If you think that the Blackberry is a better device, I will let the marketplace decide. As they have so far selling over 16 million iPhones this year alone and outselling all of RIM! Doing this in only 15 months in the game.

With the Storm having NO WiFi, LOCKED GPS, and little in the way of apps or a decent SDK for developers, all you have is a cell phone with email!

]]> By: Lee http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/#comment-43384 Lee Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:05:10 +0000 http://jkontherun.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4#comment-43384 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <p>Amazing that an iPhone user would comment here, touting how the iPhone is the be all end all of touch screens! The iPhone was late to the game too! I can think of several tens of thousands of reasons the iPhone sucks; WINDOWS MOBILE APPS! Windows Mobile was around for over 5 YEARS before the iPhone and has over 5 TIMES the number of apps of the iPhone! The iPhone is a DIRECT rip off of the Windows Mobile phones yet somehow this detail gets left out of the "iPhone conversation". Face it; something better ALWAYS comes along, and this time it is the Blackberry RIM!</p> </div>

Amazing that an iPhone user would comment here, touting how the iPhone is the be all end all of touch screens! The iPhone was late to the game too! I can think of several tens of thousands of reasons the iPhone sucks; WINDOWS MOBILE APPS! Windows Mobile was around for over 5 YEARS before the iPhone and has over 5 TIMES the number of apps of the iPhone! The iPhone is a DIRECT rip off of the Windows Mobile phones yet somehow this detail gets left out of the “iPhone conversation”. Face it; something better ALWAYS comes along, and this time it is the Blackberry RIM!

]]> By: Jose Mendiola http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4/#comment-43385 Jose Mendiola Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:54:12 +0000 http://jkontherun.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/blackberry-stor-4#comment-43385 <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I must admit that I was shocked when I read Pogue's review. I have a reviewing unit which came with firmware .65 and man, what a device. It is fast, much faster than the Curve and IMO it's much better than the iPhone, even though I agree that the lack of specific software is a shame.</p> <p>Now Vodafone in Spain has just released version .78 and the device is even much faster and accurate. The only lag I really find is the camera: it takes an eternity since you push to take the picture and the picture is finally taken. </p></div>

I must admit that I was shocked when I read Pogue’s review. I have a reviewing unit which came with firmware .65 and man, what a device. It is fast, much faster than the Curve and IMO it’s much better than the iPhone, even though I agree that the lack of specific software is a shame.

Now Vodafone in Spain has just released version .78 and the device is even much faster and accurate. The only lag I really find is the camera: it takes an eternity since you push to take the picture and the picture is finally taken.

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