Comments on: Live blogging Palm Press event at CES

By: Kontra

Kontra — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:00:38 +0000

“Pre’s introduction, website, technology packaging, industrial design, UI, product naming and positioning…down to the flow of its CES presentation were pointedly, but perhaps not surprisingly, Apple-like. Of all the current iPhone competitors, Pre clearly captures the “soul” of the iPhone as much as any product not-from-Cupertino can. Whatever Pre “borrows” from the iPhone, it does so not with the brazen indifference of recent iPhone-killers, but with care and purpose.”

However:

“Palm is clearly late to iPhone’s party. By the time the first Pre is sold, the iPhone will likely have 30 million users in 70+ countries, 15,000 apps, a huge developer and peripherals ecosystem, perhaps a third of the market share and 40% of smartphone revenues. And that’s before the next generation iPhone device and OS are introduced.”

I explored Pre’s chances in:

“Strategic shortcomings of Pre in the post-iPhone era”
http://counternotions.com/2009/01/12/pre/

By: Decade

Decade — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:35:13 +0000

Ah. Now it’s interesting. I hate cell phones too much to anticipate it, but I’m finding the UI concepts interesting. Also, if I remember right, this is one of the first phones after the iPhone with a 3D accelerator.

I wonder if Maemo 5 could run on it.

@Sandro
I don’t know about the strength of Palm’s existing library. You may stay with the other 9% (and decreasing) of the market on the dying Garnet platform, but everybody else was happy to jump. It’s entirely plausible that Palm had to throw it out and start with a new platform. I’m sure the OMAP3 has plenty of power to emulate Garnet (Access has a VM for it on Nokia’s Internet tablets powered by OMAP2 processors), but the old apps’ interface wouldn’t fit well.

However, there’s still no firm information other than from Palm’s favored partners. Maybe Palm will include a Garnet VM, after all, as part of app migration support.

By: Sandro Campos Mancini

Sandro Campos Mancini — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:46:01 +0000

CDMA? Does that still exist? So Palm will rely on ONE carrier and a wireless technology that’s being PHASED OUT worldwide to regain the smartphone market? Oh-kaaay. Buying a Palm Treo PRO (not PRE) for now, GSM phone, unlocked, SIM card goodness and all. And one consideration: it’s all about the SOFTWARE. Do you guys REALLY believe developers will RALLY to join the Palm webOS bandwagon, after all those years bring treated like crap, when Apple and Microsoft’s OSs, and even RIM’s, provide a more solid and trustworthy developer community and better ROI? Web-like apps? Easy to develop maybe, but limited, certainly. NOWHERE like the MONSTER apps (in features, not size!) we had for FrankenGarnet (PalmOS 5.x). And BTW… NO compatibily with older PalmOS apps AT ALL?!? Damn, you may be able to run PalmOS even in iPhones when StyleTap releases its software for the platform! Once again, that’s not a problem with the Palm Treo PRO, since we have the ORIGINAL StyleTap program, and many applications ported to that platform (running natively). Heck, even CESD announced a “super duper” Datebk6 (now called Pimlical) for Windows Mobile, the BlackBerryOS and other platforms! For now, sorry Palm, but you’re going strong against the non-existing 3G iPhone with the 1.x firmware. :-p Do like Apple did and allow REAL apps to run on that baby, and give us PalmOS compatibility! (entice StyleTap to port their app at least!)

By: galt

galt — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:44:38 +0000

The UI demos of this device/OS by Palm are really fantastic. It really seems like Palm has taken the way a user might interact with a computer (let alone a mobile device) to a previously unseen level. They appear to have taken “touch” as a method of primary interaction with a device (that Apple has implemented so well via the iPhone) and totally evolved the concept into an OS that somehow seems incredibly physically intuitive. If there was any shred of WinMo interface that didn’t already look ancient and clunky compared to the modern mobile OS’s, Palm’s WebOS has just stomped it into the mud.

By: alex_mathews

alex_mathews — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:45:21 +0000

Developer info has been posted. There has to be an SDK, since something has to provide the interfaces for accessing data, gestures, and more.

http://developer.palm.com

By: Kevin C. Tofel

Kevin C. Tofel — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:52:21 +0000

No SDK needed. All apps are HTML, CSS, JavaScript. We have hands-on time scheduled with Palm so we’ll try to grab video.

By: Decade

Decade — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:38:15 +0000

I see nothing on Palm’s site about an SDK, I don’t see anything about what system is underneath the pretty WebOS, there are no videos…

This doesn’t excite me.

By: vm-01

vm-01 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:19:52 +0000

not a coincidence that bandwith was down after scoble showed up.

By: ignar

ignar — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:31:00 +0000

This will likely make me to sign up with Sprint again. I see lots of people keeping both AT&T and Sprint accounts.

By: Nate

Nate — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:11:20 +0000

Pretty cool stuff.

Too bad they’re launching on Sprint, though.

By: Hostgator Reseller

Hostgator Reseller — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:46:17 +0000

man, this things sounds freakin’ sweet

By: Hostgator Reseller

Hostgator Reseller — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:24:59 +0000

crap evdo-rev a…that’s sprint and verizon?

By: Hostgator Reseller

Hostgator Reseller — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:58:04 +0000

i like to think positive…good thoughts good thoughts, only good thoughts…c’mon PALM…daddy needs a new pair of phones

By: Scotty

Scotty — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:55:38 +0000

Let’s hope it’s not a Palm branded urinal cake.

By: Hostgator Reseller

Hostgator Reseller — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:49:25 +0000

ohhhh…sweetness. Bring on deNova.