Comments on: Reader Poll: How does Windows Mobile 6.5 Strike You? http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/ Using mobile devices since they weighed 30 lbs. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:32 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Keith http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-49190 Keith Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:25:20 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-49190 I forgot to add "just goes to show, these kinds of preferences are all very personal." Didn't mean to insinuate that spine was wrong. I forgot to add “just goes to show, these kinds of preferences are all very personal.” Didn’t mean to insinuate that spine was wrong.

]]> By: Keith http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-49189 Keith Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:23:49 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-49189 It's funny spinedoc, you think hardware keyboards are silly and a good handwriting recognition app is faster/better, I couldn't disagree more. I am *much* more comfortable typing, even on a cramped keyboard, especially when it comes to all the alphanumeric data I deal with (part numbers, email addresses, urls). Having horrific handwriting doesn't help, either :) Heck, ideally I'd have 2 hardware entry setups, numberpad for quick one-handed messages and QWERTY for longer ones. To the original topic, I'm frustrated with the continued application of lipstick to the pig and wish they would have just focused the resources on getting WM7 out sooner. It’s funny spinedoc, you think hardware keyboards are silly and a good handwriting recognition app is faster/better, I couldn’t disagree more. I am *much* more comfortable typing, even on a cramped keyboard, especially when it comes to all the alphanumeric data I deal with (part numbers, email addresses, urls). Having horrific handwriting doesn’t help, either :)

Heck, ideally I’d have 2 hardware entry setups, numberpad for quick one-handed messages and QWERTY for longer ones.

To the original topic, I’m frustrated with the continued application of lipstick to the pig and wish they would have just focused the resources on getting WM7 out sooner.

]]> By: Bill http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48375 Bill Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:28:53 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48375 So is that why Windows new OS is Windows 7, so that Windows Mobile 7 is the smartphone branch and it all ties together? So is that why Windows new OS is Windows 7, so that Windows Mobile 7 is the smartphone branch and it all ties together?

]]> By: spinedoc http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48314 spinedoc Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:37:29 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48314 The one great thing about WM that everyone is missing the boat on is that it keeps the stylus and handwriting recognition. Even Android got this wrong. After having the iphone for some time I am really missing my stylus and am looking longingly at the new HTC designs out there. As for hardware keyboards, I never understood them. A good handwriting recognition app is much much faster than a hardware keyboard, and takes up much much less space providing a thinner sleeker device. I think Microsoft would be fools if they didn't hurry up and just outsource the entire WM OS to HTC, and let them redo it from the bottom up. The one great thing about WM that everyone is missing the boat on is that it keeps the stylus and handwriting recognition. Even Android got this wrong. After having the iphone for some time I am really missing my stylus and am looking longingly at the new HTC designs out there.

As for hardware keyboards, I never understood them. A good handwriting recognition app is much much faster than a hardware keyboard, and takes up much much less space providing a thinner sleeker device.

I think Microsoft would be fools if they didn’t hurry up and just outsource the entire WM OS to HTC, and let them redo it from the bottom up.

]]> By: animatio http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48311 animatio Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:31:17 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48311 the main problem (i'd say pain in the ass) with winCE/mobile is/was from the beginning, that microsoft never considered these devices as independent plattforms but appendices of desktop workstations. therefore still the inability to synchronize freely to as many other pc's as one likes. the main problem (i’d say pain in the ass) with winCE/mobile is/was from the beginning, that microsoft never considered these devices as independent plattforms but appendices of desktop workstations. therefore still the inability to synchronize freely to as many other pc’s as one likes.

]]> By: ollysk2 http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48303 ollysk2 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 03:46:02 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48303 @Good2Life that's all very well and good to say wait for a hands on, but think about what you are saying from the standpoint of those of us who already think that 6.1 is a horrible piece of garbage: 1) 6.1 is a buggy, slow OS with a horrible browser 2) 6.5 is an incremental upgrade 3) therefore, even without a hands on, since it IS just an incremental upgrade, I can say that most likely, it's a buggy, slow OS with a horrible browser. I have high hopes for WinMo 7, but the question above was whether people were impressed by THIS outing on the part of Microsoft -- and given the logic behind your own argument, that this is incremental, it's not to far of leap to say "no, not really". As for everyone praising the iPhone, you are quite right -- fanboyism is fanboyism, whether it's someone defending the iPhone as if it were the second coming of Jesus, or someone defending WinMo 6.5 ;) -ollysk2 @Good2Life that’s all very well and good to say wait for a hands on, but think about what you are saying from the standpoint of those of us who already think that 6.1 is a horrible piece of garbage:

1) 6.1 is a buggy, slow OS with a horrible browser
2) 6.5 is an incremental upgrade
3) therefore, even without a hands on, since it IS just an incremental upgrade, I can say that most likely, it’s a buggy, slow OS with a horrible browser.

I have high hopes for WinMo 7, but the question above was whether people were impressed by THIS outing on the part of Microsoft — and given the logic behind your own argument, that this is incremental, it’s not to far of leap to say “no, not really”.

As for everyone praising the iPhone, you are quite right — fanboyism is fanboyism, whether it’s someone defending the iPhone as if it were the second coming of Jesus, or someone defending WinMo 6.5 ;)

-ollysk2

]]> By: Galt http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48299 Galt Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:23:15 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48299 Mahesh wrote: "Why is everyone crying about how it “seems” to be an incremental update, when clearly 6.1 to 6.5 *IS* an incremental update? It is in every way an incremental update, so there is no “seems” about it." ...and WM 6.0 was a weak improvement of WM 5 that failed to address broken UI concepts that were almost 5 years old when it was launched and WM 6.1 was an incremental update of WM 6 that also failed to improve much. That's almost 3 years of micro-refreshes to what is basically still just WM5, and it will be nearly a full 4 years from WM5 until we possibly see a truly refreshed OS in WM 7. Really, you have the patience for this kind of failure to make progress? When one sees the leaps and bounds advancements in the mobile OS's from Apple, Android, and soon Palm, who wants to re-up with another sad micro-update to WinMo? Mahesh wrote: “Why is everyone crying about how it “seems” to be an incremental update, when clearly 6.1 to 6.5 *IS* an incremental update? It is in every way an incremental update, so there is no “seems” about it.”

…and WM 6.0 was a weak improvement of WM 5 that failed to address broken UI concepts that were almost 5 years old when it was launched and WM 6.1 was an incremental update of WM 6 that also failed to improve much. That’s almost 3 years of micro-refreshes to what is basically still just WM5, and it will be nearly a full 4 years from WM5 until we possibly see a truly refreshed OS in WM 7.

Really, you have the patience for this kind of failure to make progress? When one sees the leaps and bounds advancements in the mobile OS’s from Apple, Android, and soon Palm, who wants to re-up with another sad micro-update to WinMo?

]]> By: andrew beery http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48297 andrew beery Tue, 17 Feb 2009 01:58:06 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48297 I'm running a beta of 6.5 on my HTC Touch HD and I have to say I'm thrilled... works very smoothly and the new Mobile IE6 is very fast -- mind blowing so in point of fact. It is very finger friendly... Its a beta so I probably will replace it with another 6.1 ROM in a few days but I think most users will be pleased by what they will see I’m running a beta of 6.5 on my HTC Touch HD and I have to say I’m thrilled… works very smoothly and the new Mobile IE6 is very fast — mind blowing so in point of fact. It is very finger friendly… Its a beta so I probably will replace it with another 6.1 ROM in a few days but I think most users will be pleased by what they will see

]]> By: seamonkey420 http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48292 seamonkey420 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:47:49 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48292 @Philip Ferris Wrod to SPB! without SPB i would have never made it as long as i did w/my Tmobile MDA (and of course the gang over at xdadevelopers and showing how to homebrew your own custom ext roms!). still a meh for me. looking better but really does it run smoother? i hate to be that guy (i'm no apple fanboy mind you, i'm a sony fanboy if any fanboy.. hehe) but until WinMo can perform on a level compared to the iPhone; i won't be back. today i played w/WM6.1 again and was again not impressed at all. AGAIN the problem is mainly the resistive vs compacitive touch, you need the latter for touch to really work. @Philip Ferris

Wrod to SPB! without SPB i would have never made it as long as i did w/my Tmobile MDA (and of course the gang over at xdadevelopers and showing how to homebrew your own custom ext roms!).

still a meh for me. looking better but really does it run smoother? i hate to be that guy (i’m no apple fanboy mind you, i’m a sony fanboy if any fanboy.. hehe) but until WinMo can perform on a level compared to the iPhone; i won’t be back.

today i played w/WM6.1 again and was again not impressed at all. AGAIN the problem is mainly the resistive vs compacitive touch, you need the latter for touch to really work.

]]> By: Philip Ferris http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48291 Philip Ferris Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:26:49 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48291 And if MAtt thought the current spb shell for 6.1 was good the version 3 - out to consumers late March is Amazing And if MAtt thought the current spb shell for 6.1 was good the version 3 – out to consumers late March is Amazing

]]> By: James Kendrick http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48288 James Kendrick Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:34:19 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48288 Jake, it's not required, just like it's not required on the iPhone (original question). Jake, it’s not required, just like it’s not required on the iPhone (original question).

]]> By: CTSLICK http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48284 CTSLICK Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:02:04 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48284 I like my WM device (currently a Sprint Mogul). I like what I can do on WM. But the interface needs more that just a new shell. Finger friendly interfaces everywhere please. I'd like to be done with my stylus. More revolution, less evolution...its time to get going on this. I like my WM device (currently a Sprint Mogul). I like what I can do on WM. But the interface needs more that just a new shell. Finger friendly interfaces everywhere please. I’d like to be done with my stylus. More revolution, less evolution…its time to get going on this.

]]> By: Jake http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48282 Jake Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:30:21 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48282 How is inking "required" on a Windows Mobile phone? How is inking “required” on a Windows Mobile phone?

]]> By: Terry http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48280 Terry Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:26:23 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48280 Lipstick on a pig. So they made a nicer looking home screen. people have been doing that on Winmo for years. It's still a bug ridden, memory leaking, unstable mess underneath. Kind of like Windows itself. Lipstick on a pig. So they made a nicer looking home screen. people have been doing that on Winmo for years. It’s still a bug ridden, memory leaking, unstable mess underneath. Kind of like Windows itself.

]]> By: James Kendrick http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48277 James Kendrick Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:59:41 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48277 Hands-on is critical for a phone, no question. I can't wait to try this out. @Good, no inking required. :) Hands-on is critical for a phone, no question. I can’t wait to try this out.

@Good, no inking required. :)

]]> By: Steve 'Chippy' Paine http://jkontherun.com/2009/02/16/reader-poll-how-does-windows-mobile-65-strike-you/#comment-48276 Steve 'Chippy' Paine Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:22:13 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=29844#comment-48276 Got to wait for hands-on before making any rash decisions! Got to wait for hands-on before making any rash decisions!

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