Comments on: Coffee break- Laptops are Bigger in Panera Bread http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/ Using mobile devices since they weighed 30 lbs. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:32 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: James Kendrick http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-66680 James Kendrick Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:09:13 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-66680 I also go to independent local shops. I also go to independent local shops.

]]> By: OZ http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-66678 OZ Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:48:11 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-66678 What other chains other than Panera and Starbucks do you go to for working? What other chains other than Panera and Starbucks do you go to for working?

]]> By: Jeff Hester http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58992 Jeff Hester Fri, 22 May 2009 15:15:41 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58992 Contrasting Panera with Starbucks, one key difference is the emphasis on food. Starbucks emphasizes coffee; less expensive and something many people are likely to grab and go. At Panera, it seems most customers are getting a sandwich and being more leisurely about it. I'm less inclined to lug a large laptop into Starbucks for 10 minutes, but more so at Panera where I'll be there for 30-40 minutes (with a table, something you may or not find available at Starbucks). And finally, Vincent's point about clientele is well put. I see a lot of students "camping" at Starbucks, often with lower end laptops. It's a cheap(er) place for them to study or hang out. The setup of Panera implies "I'm here for lunch" and naturally attracts a different crowd. Contrasting Panera with Starbucks, one key difference is the emphasis on food. Starbucks emphasizes coffee; less expensive and something many people are likely to grab and go.

At Panera, it seems most customers are getting a sandwich and being more leisurely about it.

I’m less inclined to lug a large laptop into Starbucks for 10 minutes, but more so at Panera where I’ll be there for 30-40 minutes (with a table, something you may or not find available at Starbucks).

And finally, Vincent’s point about clientele is well put. I see a lot of students “camping” at Starbucks, often with lower end laptops. It’s a cheap(er) place for them to study or hang out. The setup of Panera implies “I’m here for lunch” and naturally attracts a different crowd.

]]> By: Vincent Ferrari http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58980 Vincent Ferrari Fri, 22 May 2009 13:32:09 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58980 Tables are nice and all, but I think you're all missing the issue: the clientele. The Starbucks crowd simply doesn't use gigantic laptops. Either they don't buy cheaper laptops (that's born out in the Starbucks I go to where the cheapest ones you see are low end White Macbooks) or they're a little more style conscious (chalk that up to pretentiousness or whatever you want, but most latte sippers would never be caught dead with a computer that size, again, at least at the Starbucks' I go to). I think it's just a difference in the clientele and what they use a computer for / buy a computer for, and the kind of crowd that frequents the store. Starbucks, as much as I love them, caters to a more... Well... "snobby" crowd. Panera is way more "down home every man." That coupled with the fact that Panera's WiFi is free probably attracts the budget / regular guy crowd more than coffee and pay WiFi. Tables are nice and all, but I think you’re all missing the issue: the clientele.

The Starbucks crowd simply doesn’t use gigantic laptops. Either they don’t buy cheaper laptops (that’s born out in the Starbucks I go to where the cheapest ones you see are low end White Macbooks) or they’re a little more style conscious (chalk that up to pretentiousness or whatever you want, but most latte sippers would never be caught dead with a computer that size, again, at least at the Starbucks’ I go to).

I think it’s just a difference in the clientele and what they use a computer for / buy a computer for, and the kind of crowd that frequents the store. Starbucks, as much as I love them, caters to a more… Well… “snobby” crowd. Panera is way more “down home every man.” That coupled with the fact that Panera’s WiFi is free probably attracts the budget / regular guy crowd more than coffee and pay WiFi.

]]> By: Fernando http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58978 Fernando Fri, 22 May 2009 13:23:00 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58978 Big tables, big sandwiches, big coffee cups... Big tables, big sandwiches, big coffee cups…

]]> By: Baz http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58968 Baz Fri, 22 May 2009 11:20:12 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58968 Sounds like it could be a case of the notebook reflecting the dietary choices of its owners and the places they like to go. 'Panera Bread' doesn't exactly suggest lightweight, but rather carb and size heavy.... ;) Sounds like it could be a case of the notebook reflecting the dietary choices of its owners and the places they like to go.

‘Panera Bread’ doesn’t exactly suggest lightweight, but rather carb and size heavy….

;)

]]> By: zenpilgrim http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58965 zenpilgrim Fri, 22 May 2009 10:53:32 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58965 My 17 inch laptop was my primary computer, used for video and image editing and I took it to Panera when I had to get out o the home office but still needed to work. Panera offered more table space so I didn't feel I was a space hog when I was there for a while. The large laptop has since been replaced by a fast desktop so now I go to Panera with my netbook, check some emails, surf a little and enjoy my coffee. I'm not there as much but it's more enjoyable. My 17 inch laptop was my primary computer, used for video and image editing and I took it to Panera when I had to get out o the home office but still needed to work. Panera offered more table space so I didn’t feel I was a space hog when I was there for a while.

The large laptop has since been replaced by a fast desktop so now I go to Panera with my netbook, check some emails, surf a little and enjoy my coffee. I’m not there as much but it’s more enjoyable.

]]> By: ramfrancisuK http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58948 ramfrancisuK Fri, 22 May 2009 05:32:30 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58948 I think the real problem here is that the coffee shop is fast becoming an office space provider. Next they will be offering "free" telephone, fax, photocopying and secretarial services.:) Living in the UK, I am seeing a great deal more of this. I find it a bit distrubing. People need to have a break from the office. More people should just go there to enjoy the Tea/Coffee and something to eat. :) I think the real problem here is that the coffee shop is fast becoming an office space provider. Next they will be offering “free” telephone, fax, photocopying and secretarial services.:)

Living in the UK, I am seeing a great deal more of this. I find it a bit distrubing. People need to have a break from the office.

More people should just go there to enjoy the Tea/Coffee and something to eat. :)

]]> By: Dirt http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58945 Dirt Fri, 22 May 2009 03:40:28 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58945 I think the main reason is table size and stability. Coffee shops tend to have flimsier tables. Every time I'm in Panera I feel like everyone is trying to be considerate. Even when families come in, everyone seems to speak quietly. I really like the respect that everyone seems to have there. Decent espresso too. I think the main reason is table size and stability. Coffee shops tend to have flimsier tables.

Every time I’m in Panera I feel like everyone is trying to be considerate. Even when families come in, everyone seems to speak quietly. I really like the respect that everyone seems to have there. Decent espresso too.

]]> By: Rob http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58942 Rob Fri, 22 May 2009 01:48:50 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58942 I met with a web designer there who brought and Imac with a full size keyboard and mouse. When I work there, I have my 17-inch Dell M90 for engineering. It is definitely more conducive to spreading out. The layout is better. It's quieter. And the wi-fi is free. Perhaps real work gets done there. I met with a web designer there who brought and Imac with a full size keyboard and mouse. When I work there, I have my 17-inch Dell M90 for engineering.

It is definitely more conducive to spreading out. The layout is better. It’s quieter. And the wi-fi is free. Perhaps real work gets done there.

]]> By: Nate http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58941 Nate Fri, 22 May 2009 01:48:07 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58941 I'll bet it's about being cheap, or not wanting to shell out cash for things that are deemed unnecessary. You said it yourself, Panera has free wifi. Free is always good. Now to the laptop situation. These guys view a laptop as portable, and don't see a need to waste money on multiple computers. I'll bet that big seventeen incher is the only computer they own. Free wifi and one computer. It's about being frugal. I'll bet you see a lot more Macs in Starbucks, too. I know I do. I’ll bet it’s about being cheap, or not wanting to shell out cash for things that are deemed unnecessary.

You said it yourself, Panera has free wifi. Free is always good.

Now to the laptop situation. These guys view a laptop as portable, and don’t see a need to waste money on multiple computers. I’ll bet that big seventeen incher is the only computer they own.

Free wifi and one computer. It’s about being frugal.

I’ll bet you see a lot more Macs in Starbucks, too. I know I do.

]]> By: JHall http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58934 JHall Fri, 22 May 2009 00:42:06 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58934 I beleive it is the table space and driving to the coffee shop, also plenty of electrical outlets. Work issued laptop aswell. I have seen some tablet pc convertables, but always used in laptop mode. Panera is my favorite place togo. I like that they don't play the music to loud and they do make good salads, sandwiches and soups. I beleive it is the table space and driving to the coffee shop, also plenty of electrical outlets. Work issued laptop aswell. I have seen some tablet pc convertables, but always used in laptop mode. Panera is my favorite place togo. I like that they don’t play the music to loud and they do make good salads, sandwiches and soups.

]]> By: cybertactix http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58932 cybertactix Fri, 22 May 2009 00:30:34 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58932 If you are going to haul something big around, a cup of coffee and a muffin just aren't enough when you need to re-energize. ;-) If you are going to haul something big around, a cup of coffee and a muffin just aren’t enough when you need to re-energize. ;-)

]]> By: Levi http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58930 Levi Thu, 21 May 2009 23:53:59 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58930 I don't know about you specific coffee joints but my family owned coffeeshops are frequented by folks who travel on foot while the Paneras I know are all places you drive to. I don’t know about you specific coffee joints but my family owned coffeeshops are frequented by folks who travel on foot while the Paneras I know are all places you drive to.

]]> By: Jordan Running http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58929 Jordan Running Thu, 21 May 2009 23:45:31 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58929 This is a true story: A few months ago I went to a Panera in a mall food court and saw a guy working on a laptop. He was typing on the laptop keyboard, but its screen was off or broken, and instead he had plugged in an actual 15 or 17-inch CRT screen. He was kind of shady-looking fellow and I'm pretty sure the woman with him was his mother, so I didn't dare approach him to ask about it. This is a true story: A few months ago I went to a Panera in a mall food court and saw a guy working on a laptop. He was typing on the laptop keyboard, but its screen was off or broken, and instead he had plugged in an actual 15 or 17-inch CRT screen.

He was kind of shady-looking fellow and I’m pretty sure the woman with him was his mother, so I didn’t dare approach him to ask about it.

]]> By: Jasen http://jkontherun.com/2009/05/21/coffee-break-laptops-are-bigger-in-panera-bread/#comment-58928 Jasen Thu, 21 May 2009 23:43:41 +0000 http://jkontherun.com/?p=36139#comment-58928 I see people playing games such as World of Warcraft, etc. at Paneras all the time. What is the ratio of individuals using those bigger laptops to them playing online games? I see people playing games such as World of Warcraft, etc. at Paneras all the time. What is the ratio of individuals using those bigger laptops to them playing online games?

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