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	<title>Comments on: NVIDIA Smartbooks: Windows CE Over Android for Now</title>
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		<title>By: Cintra</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/06/18/nvidia-smartbooks-windows-ce-over-android-for-now/#comment-61909</link>
		<dc:creator>Cintra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with HereAndNow

The statement above &quot;As it stands, Android is largely untested and is way too overpromoted considering that it currently only sells on one uninspiring phone&quot; is pure bull.

I have been using the HTC Magic for only a few days now in Norway, and find it to be one of the slickest pieces of technology I have ever used! 

Far easier to use than my previous (well liked) Nokia Smartphone, and with access to a selection of excellent free apps to build on those which come with the phone.

Roll on netbooks with the Android OS...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with HereAndNow</p>
<p>The statement above &#8220;As it stands, Android is largely untested and is way too overpromoted considering that it currently only sells on one uninspiring phone&#8221; is pure bull.</p>
<p>I have been using the HTC Magic for only a few days now in Norway, and find it to be one of the slickest pieces of technology I have ever used! </p>
<p>Far easier to use than my previous (well liked) Nokia Smartphone, and with access to a selection of excellent free apps to build on those which come with the phone.</p>
<p>Roll on netbooks with the Android OS&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HereAndNow</title>
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		<dc:creator>HereAndNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like a device with a forward looking hardware platform (Tegra) AND a forward looking software platform (Android). Android supports OTA updates, so even if Android does not leverage all the features of Tegra initially, updates can be pushed out, as improvements are made.

If Nvidia wants to use WinCE, to demonstrate some of the capabilities of Tegra, fine, but it&#039;s not what I want as a final product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like a device with a forward looking hardware platform (Tegra) AND a forward looking software platform (Android). Android supports OTA updates, so even if Android does not leverage all the features of Tegra initially, updates can be pushed out, as improvements are made.</p>
<p>If Nvidia wants to use WinCE, to demonstrate some of the capabilities of Tegra, fine, but it&#8217;s not what I want as a final product.</p>
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		<title>By: Virtuous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virtuous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Windows CE smartbooks will fail even more spectacularly than MIDs and UMPCs. NVIDIA should just wait untill Android is ready for larger devices. NVIDIA is in a hurry to lose money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows CE smartbooks will fail even more spectacularly than MIDs and UMPCs. NVIDIA should just wait untill Android is ready for larger devices. NVIDIA is in a hurry to lose money.</p>
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		<title>By: Decade</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/06/18/nvidia-smartbooks-windows-ce-over-android-for-now/#comment-61801</link>
		<dc:creator>Decade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NVIDIA badmouths Linux. What a surprise. (Not!)

NVIDIA is hostile to open source. No wonder they prefer to work with Microsoft. In turn, Google is not entirely open, so Google makes a better match than, say, Canonical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NVIDIA badmouths Linux. What a surprise. (Not!)</p>
<p>NVIDIA is hostile to open source. No wonder they prefer to work with Microsoft. In turn, Google is not entirely open, so Google makes a better match than, say, Canonical.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/06/18/nvidia-smartbooks-windows-ce-over-android-for-now/#comment-61730</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tegra wil be showing up in lots of WinCE/WinMo-based devices from the Zune HD to phones in the next few months.  NVidia will be putting a lot of effort into driver development and obviously want to get the most out of that by supporting one platform really well.  

As it stands, Android is largely untested and is way too overpromoted considering that it currently only sells on one uninspiring phone.  

Having said all that, I still think this whole &quot;Smartbook&quot; is a stupid idea.  Too big to be a phone, too small to be a laptop it doesn&#039;t even have a sensible name.  &quot;Smartphone&quot; distinguishes phones with advanced capabilities from feature phones while &quot;Netbook&quot; distinguishes laptops with less advanced capabilities from their larger, more powerful cousins.  What is so smart about a Smartbook?  If anything it seems like it should be a DumbBook as they are even less capable than Netbooks.  I am willing to bet a considerable sum that these things are even less successful than MIDs have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tegra wil be showing up in lots of WinCE/WinMo-based devices from the Zune HD to phones in the next few months.  NVidia will be putting a lot of effort into driver development and obviously want to get the most out of that by supporting one platform really well.  </p>
<p>As it stands, Android is largely untested and is way too overpromoted considering that it currently only sells on one uninspiring phone.  </p>
<p>Having said all that, I still think this whole &#8220;Smartbook&#8221; is a stupid idea.  Too big to be a phone, too small to be a laptop it doesn&#8217;t even have a sensible name.  &#8220;Smartphone&#8221; distinguishes phones with advanced capabilities from feature phones while &#8220;Netbook&#8221; distinguishes laptops with less advanced capabilities from their larger, more powerful cousins.  What is so smart about a Smartbook?  If anything it seems like it should be a DumbBook as they are even less capable than Netbooks.  I am willing to bet a considerable sum that these things are even less successful than MIDs have been.</p>
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		<title>By: ZSX</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/06/18/nvidia-smartbooks-windows-ce-over-android-for-now/#comment-61712</link>
		<dc:creator>ZSX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The juicier quote follows the one you made

&quot;...due to existing limitations in Android, he said.

For instance, Android screen icons that fit on smartphone screens (usually 4-inches and under) are oversized on a smartbook&#039;s 8- or 9-inch screen, he said.

Also, all video and graphics rendering in Android is done today by the operating system&#039;s Java code, a technique he says is too slow for HD video.&quot;

&quot;There&#039;s no hardware acceleration. It&#039;s all software,&quot; Rayfield said. &quot;Everyone&#039;s talking about Android for cell phones, but the reality doesn&#039;t exist for the larger displays [of a smartbook.]&quot; 

So there are valid reasons why, despite the brand recognition and the fanfare, Android is currently not suited (yet) to devices in this space. 

CE 6 is out, 6.5 and 7 are on their way, and if, as nVidia alleges, they have inked distribution deals with cell carriers, then they will also be widely available. Perhaps this will address the limited software currently available for Windows CE (not Windows Mobile) and incentivise development on the platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The juicier quote follows the one you made</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;due to existing limitations in Android, he said.</p>
<p>For instance, Android screen icons that fit on smartphone screens (usually 4-inches and under) are oversized on a smartbook&#8217;s 8- or 9-inch screen, he said.</p>
<p>Also, all video and graphics rendering in Android is done today by the operating system&#8217;s Java code, a technique he says is too slow for HD video.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s no hardware acceleration. It&#8217;s all software,&#8221; Rayfield said. &#8220;Everyone&#8217;s talking about Android for cell phones, but the reality doesn&#8217;t exist for the larger displays [of a smartbook.]&#8221; </p>
<p>So there are valid reasons why, despite the brand recognition and the fanfare, Android is currently not suited (yet) to devices in this space. </p>
<p>CE 6 is out, 6.5 and 7 are on their way, and if, as nVidia alleges, they have inked distribution deals with cell carriers, then they will also be widely available. Perhaps this will address the limited software currently available for Windows CE (not Windows Mobile) and incentivise development on the platform.</p>
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