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	<title>Comments on: Skype 1.1 for iPhone Released- SMS but Don&#8217;t Push</title>
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		<title>By: Rick Huizinga</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/06/30/skype-1-1-for-iphone-released-sms-but-dont-push/#comment-63158</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Huizinga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, if could be done that way.  I was thinking along the lines of using a Skype-In number such that a push notification would be sent when someone dials your number.  In this case, I don&#039;t believe push notifications would be fast enough to notify you, and you launching the Skype app before the caller hears 3 rings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, if could be done that way.  I was thinking along the lines of using a Skype-In number such that a push notification would be sent when someone dials your number.  In this case, I don&#8217;t believe push notifications would be fast enough to notify you, and you launching the Skype app before the caller hears 3 rings.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/06/30/skype-1-1-for-iphone-released-sms-but-dont-push/#comment-63156</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about they route iPhone calls (in &amp; out) through a central server like Blackberry?  Of course this would cost money, but most people wouldn&#039;t mind paying extra for mobility on the move, as long as it wasn&#039;t the rip off prices you get from the Telcos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about they route iPhone calls (in &amp; out) through a central server like Blackberry?  Of course this would cost money, but most people wouldn&#8217;t mind paying extra for mobility on the move, as long as it wasn&#8217;t the rip off prices you get from the Telcos.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/06/30/skype-1-1-for-iphone-released-sms-but-dont-push/#comment-63155</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rick,

Good to hear from a real developer!  Personally I think you are over complicating the issue.  
The simplest solution would be that when the iPhone app is activated then the user is online as normal.  When they have logged in once, then closed the app, that would activate push notifications for a day or so (just like the AIM app).  The iPhone status would be &#039;Away&#039; in this situation (as technically they are away - just like they have stepped away from their PC for lunch or whatever).  Calls could go straight to voicemail where the voicemail would be pushed to show as a badge when they have finished recording.  IM&#039;s would push to a badge as well, just like on the desktop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rick,</p>
<p>Good to hear from a real developer!  Personally I think you are over complicating the issue.<br />
The simplest solution would be that when the iPhone app is activated then the user is online as normal.  When they have logged in once, then closed the app, that would activate push notifications for a day or so (just like the AIM app).  The iPhone status would be &#8216;Away&#8217; in this situation (as technically they are away &#8211; just like they have stepped away from their PC for lunch or whatever).  Calls could go straight to voicemail where the voicemail would be pushed to show as a badge when they have finished recording.  IM&#8217;s would push to a badge as well, just like on the desktop.</p>
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		<title>By: colin</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/06/30/skype-1-1-for-iphone-released-sms-but-dont-push/#comment-62906</link>
		<dc:creator>colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure that push skype is even technically possible.

Skype is a complete peer-to-peer system.  As far as I know, calls are not routed through a central sever, so the skype folks don&#039;t know when you get calls, and the same is true for IMs.  

I think the could push voicemail notifications because they are stored centrally, they could probably push skype-in type calls as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that push skype is even technically possible.</p>
<p>Skype is a complete peer-to-peer system.  As far as I know, calls are not routed through a central sever, so the skype folks don&#8217;t know when you get calls, and the same is true for IMs.  </p>
<p>I think the could push voicemail notifications because they are stored centrally, they could probably push skype-in type calls as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash Ganatra</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/06/30/skype-1-1-for-iphone-released-sms-but-dont-push/#comment-62902</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash Ganatra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone know what happend to the blackberry client?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone know what happend to the blackberry client?</p>
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		<title>By: brett</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/06/30/skype-1-1-for-iphone-released-sms-but-dont-push/#comment-62897</link>
		<dc:creator>brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh?  Just do the push for the IM part of skype, not the voice.  That way you can just IM to your friends &quot;hey, turn on skype and I&#039;ll call&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?  Just do the push for the IM part of skype, not the voice.  That way you can just IM to your friends &#8220;hey, turn on skype and I&#8217;ll call&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Thierry</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/06/30/skype-1-1-for-iphone-released-sms-but-dont-push/#comment-62892</link>
		<dc:creator>Thierry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, you just need to create a free iTunes account from the USA iTunes store to be able to download Skype on your computer. Once it&#039;s in the &quot;Applications&quot; section of your iTunes, you will only need to synchronize your iPhone or iPod Touch with it and there you go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, you just need to create a free iTunes account from the USA iTunes store to be able to download Skype on your computer. Once it&#8217;s in the &#8220;Applications&#8221; section of your iTunes, you will only need to synchronize your iPhone or iPod Touch with it and there you go!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/06/30/skype-1-1-for-iphone-released-sms-but-dont-push/#comment-62891</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh lucky Americans ... here in Canada we are still waiting for Skype on iPhone, which has not been released due to licensing issues ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh lucky Americans &#8230; here in Canada we are still waiting for Skype on iPhone, which has not been released due to licensing issues &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Huizinga</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/06/30/skype-1-1-for-iphone-released-sms-but-dont-push/#comment-62890</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Huizinga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a developer, push notification on Skype would be difficult.  For one, there is no guarantee that a push notification would be delivered soon enough to answer an incoming Skype phone call before it goes to voicemail.  Even if the push notification was delivered in a timely fashion, there is still the app-launch delay to deal with.  I&#039;m afraid that the caller will either have to wait for alot of rings and/or be dumped into voice mail.

Now, I could imagine ways around the delay.  For one, Skype could implement a service to notify the incoming caller that the other party is using an iPhone and that it may take up to a minute before the call can be answered.  The caller could then have several choices: 1) wait for the call to be answered, 2) just leave a voicemail, 3) request a call-back.

Although I would love for Skype to add push notifications as much as the next guy, but I just don&#039;t believe that push notifications as implemented through Apple&#039;s servers is well suited for telephony services.

(P.S. The reason I mention Apple&#039;s servers is that Skype has no control over the latency added by the push notification servers of a third party).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a developer, push notification on Skype would be difficult.  For one, there is no guarantee that a push notification would be delivered soon enough to answer an incoming Skype phone call before it goes to voicemail.  Even if the push notification was delivered in a timely fashion, there is still the app-launch delay to deal with.  I&#8217;m afraid that the caller will either have to wait for alot of rings and/or be dumped into voice mail.</p>
<p>Now, I could imagine ways around the delay.  For one, Skype could implement a service to notify the incoming caller that the other party is using an iPhone and that it may take up to a minute before the call can be answered.  The caller could then have several choices: 1) wait for the call to be answered, 2) just leave a voicemail, 3) request a call-back.</p>
<p>Although I would love for Skype to add push notifications as much as the next guy, but I just don&#8217;t believe that push notifications as implemented through Apple&#8217;s servers is well suited for telephony services.</p>
<p>(P.S. The reason I mention Apple&#8217;s servers is that Skype has no control over the latency added by the push notification servers of a third party).</p>
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