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	<title>Comments on: Sprint Offers a Netbook for Under a Buck. Will AT&amp;T &amp; Verizon follow?</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63364</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CzechM8: This deal doesn&#039;t come with a USB 3G adapter. The embedded solution is the HP un2400 EV-DO/HSDPA Mobile Broadband Module, which is a Qualcomm Gobi chip on a Mini-PCIe module. In theory, you could remove the module from inside the netbook and install it in another device that supports Mini-PCIe and offers driver support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CzechM8: This deal doesn&#8217;t come with a USB 3G adapter. The embedded solution is the HP un2400 EV-DO/HSDPA Mobile Broadband Module, which is a Qualcomm Gobi chip on a Mini-PCIe module. In theory, you could remove the module from inside the netbook and install it in another device that supports Mini-PCIe and offers driver support.</p>
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		<title>By: TateJ</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63362</link>
		<dc:creator>TateJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Sprint was to give away a netbook and a usb modem, that would be the best of both worlds.  I&#039;d drop my AT&amp;T mobile broadband account and go to sprint in a heart beat.  

Alas, the Best Buy Website says that the 3g modem is embedded in the netbook.  I like having the flexibilty to us one 3g modem between all of my computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Sprint was to give away a netbook and a usb modem, that would be the best of both worlds.  I&#8217;d drop my AT&amp;T mobile broadband account and go to sprint in a heart beat.  </p>
<p>Alas, the Best Buy Website says that the 3g modem is embedded in the netbook.  I like having the flexibilty to us one 3g modem between all of my computers.</p>
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		<title>By: CzechM8</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63361</link>
		<dc:creator>CzechM8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tom; @TateJ - One of the main difference between CDMA carriers and GSM carriers is how provisioning is handled. GSM (AT&amp;T, T-Mob) use SIM cards that are provisioned to your acct. CDMA (Sprint, Verizon, Leap, Alltel, et al) do not. There is no SIM card to remove/swap.

I *THINK* the 3G EvDO chipset is built into the netbook like the 802.x WiFi chipset. But *MAYBE* the deal is a netbook that comes with a USB EvDO modem. There&#039;s not enough details here to tell. If so you could just keep the USB modem (since its CDMA chipset is waht&#039;s provisioned to your name) and sell the netbook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tom; @TateJ &#8211; One of the main difference between CDMA carriers and GSM carriers is how provisioning is handled. GSM (AT&amp;T, T-Mob) use SIM cards that are provisioned to your acct. CDMA (Sprint, Verizon, Leap, Alltel, et al) do not. There is no SIM card to remove/swap.</p>
<p>I *THINK* the 3G EvDO chipset is built into the netbook like the 802.x WiFi chipset. But *MAYBE* the deal is a netbook that comes with a USB EvDO modem. There&#8217;s not enough details here to tell. If so you could just keep the USB modem (since its CDMA chipset is waht&#8217;s provisioned to your name) and sell the netbook.</p>
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		<title>By: TateJ</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63357</link>
		<dc:creator>TateJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right.  It looks like an email to sprint customer service is needed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right.  It looks like an email to sprint customer service is needed</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63356</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whether or not sim cards are used is not really the issue; it would have to do with company policy. there is nothing difficult about programing a CDMA device with a new account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whether or not sim cards are used is not really the issue; it would have to do with company policy. there is nothing difficult about programing a CDMA device with a new account.</p>
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		<title>By: TateJ</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63344</link>
		<dc:creator>TateJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just went and checked the Sprint mobile broadband plan prices for my area.  The monthly prices are the same if I get the free netbook or a free 3g usb modem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just went and checked the Sprint mobile broadband plan prices for my area.  The monthly prices are the same if I get the free netbook or a free 3g usb modem.</p>
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		<title>By: TateJ</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63343</link>
		<dc:creator>TateJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know the answer to that question. I have no idea how Sprint works or even if they have removable sim cards that can be transferred to another device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know the answer to that question. I have no idea how Sprint works or even if they have removable sim cards that can be transferred to another device.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63340</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TateJ

but some of us want to take the netbook; but than immiediatly sell it and use the plan with a modem. will the carrier&#039;s let us do that? or does the deal come with some special plan for use with the netbook only?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TateJ</p>
<p>but some of us want to take the netbook; but than immiediatly sell it and use the plan with a modem. will the carrier&#8217;s let us do that? or does the deal come with some special plan for use with the netbook only?</p>
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		<title>By: DGarkie</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63324</link>
		<dc:creator>DGarkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if they offered this with their usb aircards i would get it, internal broadband receivers have their downfalls you have to use the netbook to use the connection and the only way you could share the connection is through lan or  ad-hoc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if they offered this with their usb aircards i would get it, internal broadband receivers have their downfalls you have to use the netbook to use the connection and the only way you could share the connection is through lan or  ad-hoc</p>
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		<title>By: TateJ</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63307</link>
		<dc:creator>TateJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is something else that is being overlooked in this conversation.  

You do not have to take the netbook if you don&#039;t want to.  Every wireless carrier will happily sell you a data plan and a cheap modem and not give you the netbook.  They would probably prefer to do it that way.  The netbook is an incentive that you can turn down.  And with most plans, at least here in the US, you are  locked into a multi year commitment with or without the netbook as part of the deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something else that is being overlooked in this conversation.  </p>
<p>You do not have to take the netbook if you don&#8217;t want to.  Every wireless carrier will happily sell you a data plan and a cheap modem and not give you the netbook.  They would probably prefer to do it that way.  The netbook is an incentive that you can turn down.  And with most plans, at least here in the US, you are  locked into a multi year commitment with or without the netbook as part of the deal.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63305</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if enough customers walked into phone shops demanding a cash kickback for not taking a subsidized phone they would start offering them. this used to be very popular in europe. you would walk into a shop ask for cash back in place of a phone, if they said no you would pick out a phone and than ask them to buy it back. eventually this became so popular that all shops had policies in place for this. now things have changed a bit. in almost all european countries you can get plans from MVNO at huge discounts to the monthly and/or per minutes charges when you provide your own phone.

all this started with the consumer demands not any sort of different attitude from the companies or governments. we need to stop felling like we need to be nice to the clerks at the phone shops and instead start demanding they buy back the phones we do not care about.

i am wondering a bit about how locked these net books are both the carriers and perhaps individual accounts. can i sign up for the sprint deal and than immediately switch it over to a regular 3G dongle and sell the netbook to some else who will be able to use the built in 3G on a generic plan? that is the kind of flexibility i definitely want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if enough customers walked into phone shops demanding a cash kickback for not taking a subsidized phone they would start offering them. this used to be very popular in europe. you would walk into a shop ask for cash back in place of a phone, if they said no you would pick out a phone and than ask them to buy it back. eventually this became so popular that all shops had policies in place for this. now things have changed a bit. in almost all european countries you can get plans from MVNO at huge discounts to the monthly and/or per minutes charges when you provide your own phone.</p>
<p>all this started with the consumer demands not any sort of different attitude from the companies or governments. we need to stop felling like we need to be nice to the clerks at the phone shops and instead start demanding they buy back the phones we do not care about.</p>
<p>i am wondering a bit about how locked these net books are both the carriers and perhaps individual accounts. can i sign up for the sprint deal and than immediately switch it over to a regular 3G dongle and sell the netbook to some else who will be able to use the built in 3G on a generic plan? that is the kind of flexibility i definitely want.</p>
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		<title>By: CzechM8</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63292</link>
		<dc:creator>CzechM8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have that. It&#039;s called pre-paid service. And it works well for a segment of the market. That&#039;s partly why Boost Mobile can offer unlimited EVERYTHING for a flat $50/mo (that&#039;s it, no taxes, fees or hidden costs). There&#039;s nothing to recoup. 

To address your question though would mean each carrier would have to have different rate plans depending on how much subsidy you accepted from $0 (you) to as much as $400 (something like an iPhone or BB Storm). Does it seem fair that someone has to pay the same rates for their free flip-phone contract as the guy who gets $400 discounted off his BlackBerry Storm + extra FREE BB Storm? No, but there has to be limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have that. It&#8217;s called pre-paid service. And it works well for a segment of the market. That&#8217;s partly why Boost Mobile can offer unlimited EVERYTHING for a flat $50/mo (that&#8217;s it, no taxes, fees or hidden costs). There&#8217;s nothing to recoup. </p>
<p>To address your question though would mean each carrier would have to have different rate plans depending on how much subsidy you accepted from $0 (you) to as much as $400 (something like an iPhone or BB Storm). Does it seem fair that someone has to pay the same rates for their free flip-phone contract as the guy who gets $400 discounted off his BlackBerry Storm + extra FREE BB Storm? No, but there has to be limits.</p>
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		<title>By: SueK</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63291</link>
		<dc:creator>SueK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The subsidies are for the cost of the handset, or in this case the netbook; not the monthly fees for service. If you paid full price for your handsets, you shouldn&#039;t be locked into a two year agreement and you wouldn&#039;t have to pay any early term fees if you chose to change service providers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The subsidies are for the cost of the handset, or in this case the netbook; not the monthly fees for service. If you paid full price for your handsets, you shouldn&#8217;t be locked into a two year agreement and you wouldn&#8217;t have to pay any early term fees if you chose to change service providers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Harlow</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63287</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Harlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a problem with the subsidies themselves, but what I wish is that those of us who didn&#039;t take a sub got a discount on our monthly fees equal to the savings a subsidized user would see on the initial purchase price.

I&#039;m on AT&amp;T and have never had a subsidized phone (unlocked my T-Mo branded Sony T610 when I ported in, bought a J220a when I washed the T610, bought a CU500 when I could afford to not carry a shitty phone, then bought a K850i when I needed faster 3G), so why should I pay the same as the person who&#039;s received a $400 rebate in exchange for signing a contract?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with the subsidies themselves, but what I wish is that those of us who didn&#8217;t take a sub got a discount on our monthly fees equal to the savings a subsidized user would see on the initial purchase price.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on AT&amp;T and have never had a subsidized phone (unlocked my T-Mo branded Sony T610 when I ported in, bought a J220a when I washed the T610, bought a CU500 when I could afford to not carry a shitty phone, then bought a K850i when I needed faster 3G), so why should I pay the same as the person who&#8217;s received a $400 rebate in exchange for signing a contract?</p>
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		<title>By: Thegeniusfiles</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63276</link>
		<dc:creator>Thegeniusfiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a very savvy business move for Sprint. It will lead the industry and I see that as a good thing. Next stop: a heavily-subsidized netbook with prepaid service. Oh yes. This is where the action will really be, eventually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a very savvy business move for Sprint. It will lead the industry and I see that as a good thing. Next stop: a heavily-subsidized netbook with prepaid service. Oh yes. This is where the action will really be, eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: CzechM8</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/06/cheap-netbook-from-sprint/#comment-63270</link>
		<dc:creator>CzechM8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an AWESOME deal!

TateJ has it absolutely correct. You&#039;re paying for $1440 worth of awesome 3G data service and getting a FREE netbook. As opposed to paying for $1440 worth of 3G data and having to pay $200-$400 for your own netbook (and deal with some breakable dongle hanging off the side).

Given the netbook is Windows equipped just turn on Internet sharing and hook to a home router.

This isn&#039;t ideal for everyone. But it makes sense for so many; people looking for quick, light access to their &quot;world&quot; away from home broadband. With smartphones and netbooks on the rise the industry is reacting to what the consumers are demanding.  

Tom: If there were no subsidizing I&#039;d bet my next paycheck that you&#039;d either NOT have a cellphone today or you&#039;d have a crappy, cheap, featureless cellphone that just makes calls...and flips shut. That device would have cost you $400 out of pocket instead of being free. And guess what? You&#039;d STILL be paying $60-$100/mo for your service ANYWAY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an AWESOME deal!</p>
<p>TateJ has it absolutely correct. You&#8217;re paying for $1440 worth of awesome 3G data service and getting a FREE netbook. As opposed to paying for $1440 worth of 3G data and having to pay $200-$400 for your own netbook (and deal with some breakable dongle hanging off the side).</p>
<p>Given the netbook is Windows equipped just turn on Internet sharing and hook to a home router.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t ideal for everyone. But it makes sense for so many; people looking for quick, light access to their &#8220;world&#8221; away from home broadband. With smartphones and netbooks on the rise the industry is reacting to what the consumers are demanding.  </p>
<p>Tom: If there were no subsidizing I&#8217;d bet my next paycheck that you&#8217;d either NOT have a cellphone today or you&#8217;d have a crappy, cheap, featureless cellphone that just makes calls&#8230;and flips shut. That device would have cost you $400 out of pocket instead of being free. And guess what? You&#8217;d STILL be paying $60-$100/mo for your service ANYWAY.</p>
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