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	<title>Comments on: Palm Pre Owners Want On-Screen Keyboards, Too</title>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/14/palm-pre-owners-want-on-screen-keyboards-too/#comment-63823</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people are out to lunch. That screen on the Pre is way too small for an onscreen keyboard.

The thing that kills the Pre is the battery life. I really like the thing, but it has me thinking of going back to using my Blackberry because it barely gets me through the day.

If Palm&#039;s going to work on anything for this phone, they need to work on squeezing more out of that battery. Touch keyboards should be the least of their worries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people are out to lunch. That screen on the Pre is way too small for an onscreen keyboard.</p>
<p>The thing that kills the Pre is the battery life. I really like the thing, but it has me thinking of going back to using my Blackberry because it barely gets me through the day.</p>
<p>If Palm&#8217;s going to work on anything for this phone, they need to work on squeezing more out of that battery. Touch keyboards should be the least of their worries.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@silvan is right.  A touchscreen keyboard would not necessarily increase usability at all for the Pre.  I&#039;m a Pre user, and I didn&#039;t see this survey of Pre users.  Here&#039;s my 2 cents.

While of equal pixel resolution to the larger iPhone screen (which has an on-screen keyboard), the Pre&#039;s screen is far too small in terms of centimeters to accommodate a usable keyboard.  Any on-screen keyboard would barely leave one or two lines of text for composing a message (as it is on the iPhone, there&#039;s room for about 3 lines of text when using the landscape mode keyboard).

Combining the hardware keyboard with the touchscreen provides an excellent and sophisticated user interface that would not be possible with a touchscreen keyboard.   Selecting text is accomplished by holding down a physical key (the shift key) and dragging on the touchscreen.  Precise movement of the cursor in a text input field is accomplished with this method as well (while holding the Orange key).  A touchscreen keyboard would lose this functionality, or it would have to remap these functions in some different, inconsistent (and therefore confusing) way.

Finally, there is just not a compelling reason to implement a touchscreen keyboard.  Composing messages and typing on the included hardware keyboard is not at all difficult.  There is at most a negligible inconvenience when flipping from landscape to portrait, and opening the flip, to use the included hardware keyboard.  It&#039;s not worth making fundamental changes to the platform to alleviate this inconvenience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@silvan is right.  A touchscreen keyboard would not necessarily increase usability at all for the Pre.  I&#8217;m a Pre user, and I didn&#8217;t see this survey of Pre users.  Here&#8217;s my 2 cents.</p>
<p>While of equal pixel resolution to the larger iPhone screen (which has an on-screen keyboard), the Pre&#8217;s screen is far too small in terms of centimeters to accommodate a usable keyboard.  Any on-screen keyboard would barely leave one or two lines of text for composing a message (as it is on the iPhone, there&#8217;s room for about 3 lines of text when using the landscape mode keyboard).</p>
<p>Combining the hardware keyboard with the touchscreen provides an excellent and sophisticated user interface that would not be possible with a touchscreen keyboard.   Selecting text is accomplished by holding down a physical key (the shift key) and dragging on the touchscreen.  Precise movement of the cursor in a text input field is accomplished with this method as well (while holding the Orange key).  A touchscreen keyboard would lose this functionality, or it would have to remap these functions in some different, inconsistent (and therefore confusing) way.</p>
<p>Finally, there is just not a compelling reason to implement a touchscreen keyboard.  Composing messages and typing on the included hardware keyboard is not at all difficult.  There is at most a negligible inconvenience when flipping from landscape to portrait, and opening the flip, to use the included hardware keyboard.  It&#8217;s not worth making fundamental changes to the platform to alleviate this inconvenience.</p>
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		<title>By: Sivan</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/14/palm-pre-owners-want-on-screen-keyboards-too/#comment-63792</link>
		<dc:creator>Sivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many things missing from the Pre, this isn&#039;t one of them.

WRT soft keyboard on the G1, its unusable. The screen on the Pre cannot fit one that will have large enough keys for our thumbs.

Users think they want all kinds of stuff. I hope this is at the bottom of the list for Palm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many things missing from the Pre, this isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
<p>WRT soft keyboard on the G1, its unusable. The screen on the Pre cannot fit one that will have large enough keys for our thumbs.</p>
<p>Users think they want all kinds of stuff. I hope this is at the bottom of the list for Palm.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us know how that works out for you.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us know how that works out for you.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/14/palm-pre-owners-want-on-screen-keyboards-too/#comment-63788</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just made a Genius bar appointment to have a physical keyboard installed on my iPhone 3G ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just made a Genius bar appointment to have a physical keyboard installed on my iPhone 3G <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://jkontherun.com/2009/07/14/palm-pre-owners-want-on-screen-keyboards-too/#comment-63785</link>
		<dc:creator>James Kendrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We want what works for us, and we&#039;re all unique. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We want what works for us, and we&#8217;re all unique. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I returned the PRE, primarily due to the keyboard.  I don&#039;t really need a hardware keyboard and thought the PRE&#039;s to be tight and awkward to slide out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I returned the PRE, primarily due to the keyboard.  I don&#8217;t really need a hardware keyboard and thought the PRE&#8217;s to be tight and awkward to slide out.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveZatz</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveZatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like just a soft keyboard. Keep the current shape, but load it with a bigger battery. Then again, I don&#039;t doing much outbound typing at this point, mostly reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like just a soft keyboard. Keep the current shape, but load it with a bigger battery. Then again, I don&#8217;t doing much outbound typing at this point, mostly reading.</p>
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		<title>By: CTSLICK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTSLICK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put...I want both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put&#8230;I want both.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIRC, the issue with the G1 wasn&#039;t necessarily quick bits of text, but entering text when holding the cellphone in landscape mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC, the issue with the G1 wasn&#8217;t necessarily quick bits of text, but entering text when holding the cellphone in landscape mode.</p>
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